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Relaunching verification and what’s next

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Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#22

I always find it kind of odd when someone is verified on twitter but only has a few thousand followers. The impression it leaves is almost worse than not being verified at all.

All it means is that someone verified their identity. They are generally for people that have shown people try to copy their profile to fool others. Nothing to do with popularity, that correlation comes from the likelyhood of impersonation. But yes, also vanity.

You're leaving out the most important part, being verified but having no organic support means powerful interests are backing you against the population. Often this is journalists that push unpopular war propaganda and strategically ignore corruption and war crimes committed by the US and Israel.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#23

This doesn't really change anything, as far as I can see. The entire premise is wrong. Being verified on Twitter SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION AT ALL because of the perverse incentives it creates, and the way it warps and destroys the whole platform. The blue checkmark program started out as simply a way to prove you were the real you, if you were claiming to be someone important. But because of that element of "importance…

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Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#24

I always find it kind of odd when someone is verified on twitter but only has a few thousand followers. The impression it leaves is almost worse than not being verified at all.

Or on the other hand refuses to verify very well known people such as Assange.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter doesn't take impersonation[0] too lightly. They review accounts that have been flagged as an impersonation account, but still you can create jokey accounts, as per their clause: > Twitter users are allowed to create parody, newsfeed, commentary, or fan accounts. You have to have a disclaimer saying the account is a parody to avoid people thinking the account is the real person[1] [0] https://help.twitter.com/…

Pretty sure they were talking about verified profiles being hacked, changing their display name and avatar to Musk's, and then replying to Musk's tweet something along the lines of "I'm giving away free crypto, click here". In my view, 2FA should be a requirement for verification.

There is hacked verified accounts too, but also people setting up jokey accounts without the parody disclaimer pretending to be Musk or other influential people, then asking to 'double your Bitcoin by sending coins here'.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#26
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter doesn't take impersonation[0] too lightly. They review accounts that have been flagged as an impersonation account, but still you can create jokey accounts, as per their clause: > Twitter users are allowed to create parody, newsfeed, commentary, or fan accounts. You have to have a disclaimer saying the account is a parody to avoid people thinking the account is the real person[1] [0] https://help.twitter.com/…

Pretty sure they were talking about verified profiles being hacked, changing their display name and avatar to Musk's, and then replying to Musk's tweet something along the lines of "I'm giving away free crypto, click here". In my view, 2FA should be a requirement for verification.

2FA has historicially been broken because it is usually attached to a phone number, and phone service providers are suseptable to social engineering. What twitter (and other websites) should be using is PGP, where the user holds the secret key, and there are separate forms on messages to view PGP signatures, and forms on accounts to view their public keys.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#27

This doesn't really change anything, as far as I can see. The entire premise is wrong. Being verified on Twitter SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION AT ALL because of the perverse incentives it creates, and the way it warps and destroys the whole platform. The blue checkmark program started out as simply a way to prove you were the real you, if you were claiming to be someone important. But because of that element of "importance…

Twitter is what you make of it. At least in the groups that I tend to follow, bluechecks are treated with scorn and disdain.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#28
>The blue badge is one of the ways we help people distinguish the authenticity of accounts that are of high public interest.

This is gaslighting. That's not how blue checkmarks work in practice. They are a completely synthetic credibility token that is distributed by Twitter based on whose opinions it wants to boost. That is it.

If verified accounts were about authenticity, two things would be true:

1. Anyone would be able to verify their account after completing certain steps. There would probably be a fee, but no "high public interest" requirement (because it's an obviously gameable and subjective criteria).

2. Verification would never be revoked.

Re: Relaunching verification and what’s next

#29

This doesn't really change anything, as far as I can see. The entire premise is wrong. Being verified on Twitter SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION AT ALL because of the perverse incentives it creates, and the way it warps and destroys the whole platform. The blue checkmark program started out as simply a way to prove you were the real you, if you were claiming to be someone important. But because of that element of "importance…

> The only "good" social network site (and really the only good forum in general) is one where real names are banned.

How would you ever prove that someone's user name isn't their real name without knowing who they are?

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