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Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

Its business insider. They are a glorified clickbait outlet that so happens to have a good name.

To name a few other BS outlets that once had a good reputation:

Forbes Cnn Inc. venturebeat Mashable The list goes on...

Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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post #11

Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

Its business insider. They are a glorified clickbait outlet that so happens to have a good name. To name a few other BS outlets that once had a good reputation: Forbes Cnn Inc. venturebeat Mashable The list goes on...

You forgot fox news

Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

For me, it's not the fact it exists that is shocking. It's the fact that it exists outside of any oversight and apparently without any consideration of US or foreign law. I know the US has played fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions for a long time now. But the more the US flaunts internal laws and norms on war, the more likely aggressors are going to put them aside and we're back to the savagery of World War I…

Aggressors like what? The US has military superiority and distance to the other super powers, and it would not be in any of their interests to start a war - let alone one on moral grounds, which are flexible at best for all superpowers.

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post #11

Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

Its business insider. They are a glorified clickbait outlet that so happens to have a good name. To name a few other BS outlets that once had a good reputation: Forbes Cnn Inc. venturebeat Mashable The list goes on...

I was recently wondering what I'd need to do to browse HN minus the news sites

Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, it's not the fact it exists that is shocking. It's the fact that it exists outside of any oversight and apparently without any consideration of US or foreign law. I know the US has played fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions for a long time now. But the more the US flaunts internal laws and norms on war, the more likely aggressors are going to put them aside and we're back to the savagery of World War I…

Aggressors like what? The US has military superiority and distance to the other super powers, and it would not be in any of their interests to start a war - let alone one on moral grounds, which are flexible at best for all superpowers.

Like Great Britain, I imagine? Sending your special forces to another country with the specific task of killing their head of state is an act of aggression... but then again, if you're a permanent member of the UNSC, it doesn't matter much.

Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

For me, it's not the fact it exists that is shocking. It's the fact that it exists outside of any oversight and apparently without any consideration of US or foreign law. I know the US has played fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions for a long time now. But the more the US flaunts internal laws and norms on war, the more likely aggressors are going to put them aside and we're back to the savagery of World War I…

These programs are directed by the Executive Branch with Legislative Branch oversight and potential Judicial Branch review.

Not sure what any of these programs have to do with GC violations or laws/norms of war? Literally every major industrialized country has clandestine programs and this business predates the GCs by millennia ("the world's second-oldest profession, distinguished from the oldest one by its relative lack of ethics or morals").

Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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post #11

Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

Its business insider. They are a glorified clickbait outlet that so happens to have a good name. To name a few other BS outlets that once had a good reputation: Forbes Cnn Inc. venturebeat Mashable The list goes on...

It's Newsweek, not that I really consider their reputation much better.

Re: Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army

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Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?

For me, it's not the fact it exists that is shocking. It's the fact that it exists outside of any oversight and apparently without any consideration of US or foreign law. I know the US has played fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions for a long time now. But the more the US flaunts internal laws and norms on war, the more likely aggressors are going to put them aside and we're back to the savagery of World War I…

>I know the US has played fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions for a long time now

How is this playing fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions?

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