Exclusive: Inside the Military's Secret Undercover Army
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#2To put that 60k people number in perspective, FBI has 35k employees including administrative support staff.
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#3>the status of the Geneva Conventions—were a soldier operating under false identity to be captured by an enemy
This is not too problematic. Geneva convention and Hauge regulations are clear. They don't get the protection of Geneva conventions like troops normally are. They are spies or saboteurs.
In Russia KGB and now FSB have always been a military service. Captured KGB/FSB officers (in civilian clothing) are not treated as captured military.
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#4Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?
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#5We know how to win the war. That is easy. The hard part is knowing which side to fight for.
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#6Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?
See the first comment below the article.
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#7Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?
The size of it, how it's off the books and outside of oversight.
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#8>the status of the Geneva Conventions—were a soldier operating under false identity to be captured by an enemy This is not too problematic. Geneva convention and Hauge regulations are clear. They don't get the protection of Geneva conventions like troops normally are. They are spies or saboteurs. In Russia KGB and now FSB have always been a military service. Captured KGB/FSB officers (in civilian clothing) are not tr…
I guess they mean it's problematic for their soldiers. For the people capturing them, it makes things a lot easier as you write.
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#9Forgive me if I’m being obtuse, but I feel like this piece is written in such a sensationalistic fashion that I can’t understand what the real story is..? All the various branches of US intelligence and military have clandestine operations.. is that supposed to be shocking?
For me, it's not the fact it exists that is shocking. It's the fact that it exists outside of any oversight and apparently without any consideration of US or foreign law.
I know the US has played fast and loose with the Geneva Conventions for a long time now. But the more the US flaunts internal laws and norms on war, the more likely aggressors are going to put them aside and we're back to the savagery of World War I -- except now we have deadlier conventional and biological/chemical weapons.
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#10How am I supposed to verify any of this? I'm not inclined to believe any news article on faith alone.