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Going a bit further back, IE 5 and 6 were the best browser by far. Strange for me to think that my now-beloved Firefox has its heritage embedded in Netscape, which at the same time as IE5 was an absolute pig. - ed for some reason I have it in mind as IE5.5 specifically that was The Great IE.
I have a version of myself aged in their twenties and working in web development that really wants to stab anyone believing that IE6 was the best browser. I won't argue that it wasn't decent at launch, but MS kept support for that browser around way too long and failed to actually roll out support for new features that customers desired. I believe it was the era of IE6 specifically that led to the proliferation of to…
Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
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> IE + applets _were_ the best choice at the time Depends on the constraints. Qt was around and mature for many years in 2006. Ruby on Rails had it's first release mid 2004. Django mid-2005. Again it depends on the constrains, what you can "the best choice in 2006" is limping now. Meanwhile an app built in 2006 on Qt/RoR/Django would be on a platform that is currently still being considered for green field devt. With…
I don't think any of this was obvious in 2006.
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By "I wish that emails could just work like everything else on the web" I meant modern web HTML/CSS - I was replying to the GP - not the full set of browser capabilities such as Javascript. I suppose it's possible you'd also want to exclude certain CSS abilities, but at that point you're now diverging from the web CSS spec which isn't ideal either.
Web standard is continuously evolving but email don't need most of them. I think whitelist approach is better than blacklist for email.
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#184Edge can't be automated via COM the same way IE could. I wonder what MS is offering as an upgrade path
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The very first version was a native application for Windows 95 and 98 (First Edition). It was retired in short order in favor of the ActiveX page.
Interesting. Do you know of anywhere that has screenshots of that native application, for curiosity's sake? When I first used Windows Update in Windows 9x, it was already a (very slow) ActiveX applet.
After fighting with QEMU and getting Windows 98 4.10.1998 up and running, the wupdmgr.exe stub that it ships with just detects if the machine is connected to the Internet, if it is, it opens MSIE and sends you to a page that doesn't exist anymore.
If you're not connected, it loads a local webpage in MSIE telling you about how great Windows Update is. Funnily enough, that page also includes instructions to get rid of the Windows Update launcher should you not want to see it anymore.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#186One of my former employer will be devastated (a fortune 10). There was absolutely no other way for employees to use the company's websites without IE. (payroll, hr, internal services, etc) Even mac users had to use IE. I never figured out how they were running IE on the mac, but there it was running in all its glory.
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Nope, still using two of their products today, and waiting for the moment (as, I think, promised soon?) wherein I could donate/pay directly to/for firefox. I don't broadly support Mozilla's aims (I also don't not - I'm an owner of a 1st-gen Firefox phone, for example), but we're just talking browsers here.
I think you proved his point. ;) He's talking about the Mozilla browser, the precursor to Firefox. (Well actually, Firefox was named Phoenix before it became Firefox.)
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I think it will. Just tested the IE mode, you need to manually enable it for every time. I think it's annoying enough.
In an AD environment, you can push out a centralized list that is easy to update. We've found that IE Mode unfortunately works very well. I wish it didn't work so well because it allows us to keep these IE sites around indefinitely.
You can even disable the ability for users to change it, forcing IE mode on sites where it doesn’t work.
It’s my second most hated abuse of group policy.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#190My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.