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Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by _lhb8 »

jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

This is what I love about Microsoft. While Google is eager to go ahead and cancel Google Cloud Print and say "find an alternative before next month", Microsoft would be the company to announce it'll be cancelled in 2023, extended support lasts until 2029, and you can buy Extended Warranty 365+ for Business that lasts until 2067.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by als0 »

brundolf wrote: post #95
jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

Imagine being the engineer who has to keep maintaining the IE codebase for the next 8 years. [shudders]

This must be what hell is like.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by dspillett »

> Internet Explorer 11 desktop application will be retired ... on ...

Woo. And, indeed, hoo.

> for certain versions of Windows 10

Ah. And there begineth the weasle words. I'm guessing there will be significant organisations in finance/wealth management (our general area) and other industries that will still demand IE11 support for some time after that date.

I think first a combination of our move towards "more smaller clients, not being beholden to a few large ones", the reducing budgets if those big clients, and the fact the others are more up-to-date, will mean we'll be able to say "Support IE11 or will go elsewhere? OK then, see you around." long before IE11 really exits the industry. Whether the company will have the balls to go through with that, is something I'll find out in future, but I'm allowing myself a little hope.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by daigoba66 »

crazygringo wrote: post #98
jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

But that'll only be whitelisted for legacy corporate sites/apps that need it. Anything new can safely ignore IE11, because Edge won't be using the IE11 engine for it. This is great, because it'll get corporations to replace the actual IE11 executable with the Edge executable.

> because it'll get corporations to replace the actual IE11 executable with the Edge executable.

I’m probably just cynical, but nothing caused corporations to get rid of IE11 before, and nothing will now.

Working on an enterprise b2b web app, I’m going to have to support IE11 indefinitely.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by eric__cartman »

brundolf wrote: post #95
jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

Imagine being the engineer who has to keep maintaining the IE codebase for the next 8 years. [shudders]

I doubt anyone will be actively maintaining it once it gets implemented as a rendering engine in Edge. It will probably be implemented including the existing bugs as issues and remain unchanged until it's late retirement date. Kind of what happened with flash player.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by munk-a »

detritus wrote: post #86
skrebbel wrote: post #74

I smell a lot of nostalgia in this thread, and rightfully so! IE has been a terrible browser, but it was our terrible browser. But fear not! Outlook still uses the HTML parsing engine from MS Word (!) to display your HTML emails, and it's not going anywhere.

Going a bit further back, IE 5 and 6 were the best browser by far. Strange for me to think that my now-beloved Firefox has its heritage embedded in Netscape, which at the same time as IE5 was an absolute pig. - ed for some reason I have it in mind as IE5.5 specifically that was The Great IE.

I have a version of myself aged in their twenties and working in web development that really wants to stab anyone believing that IE6 was the best browser.

I won't argue that it wasn't decent at launch, but MS kept support for that browser around way too long and failed to actually roll out support for new features that customers desired. I believe it was the era of IE6 specifically that led to the proliferation of top-right-corner.jpg which was an absolute abomination.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

#108

Post by Mountain_Skies »

brundolf wrote: post #95
jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

Imagine being the engineer who has to keep maintaining the IE codebase for the next 8 years. [shudders]

While I wouldn't want to do it, if you've been working on that codebase for years and you're no longer young and fired up about always going for the latest things, it could be a good way to sunset your career. A guaranteed position using technology you understand rather than being thrown out into the job market, struggling to get up to date on the latest programming fads so you can compete with people half your age, would be nice for many.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by crazygringo »

daigoba66 wrote: post #105
crazygringo wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that'll only be whitelisted for legacy corporate sites/apps that need it. Anything new can safely ignore IE11, because Edge won't be using the IE11 engine for it. This is great, because it'll get corporations to replace the actual IE11 executable with the Edge executable.

> because it'll get corporations to replace the actual IE11 executable with the Edge executable. I’m probably just cynical, but nothing caused corporations to get rid of IE11 before, and nothing will now. Working on an enterprise b2b web app, I’m going to have to support IE11 indefinitely.

> and nothing will now

Yes it will. Microsoft is gradually pulling out all support for it, with this year being the big start of that.

Very soon, it'll become more work for admins to maintain IE11 installations than it will be for them to migrate to Edge with IE11 compatibility mode. Admins tend to choose the path of least work.

You're only going to need to support IE11 indefinitely if your enterprise app requires IE11. Otherwise, your company is probably going to be able to pull the plug at some point in the next 2 years, depending on your specific customer base.

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