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Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by ampdepolymerase »

otterpro wrote: post #17
mrweasel wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser Do you know why that is? I noticed that there are prominent links to a Korean and Japanese version, presumably because Internet Explorer is still used to a large extend in those two countries. Korea had some crypto stuff that only worked in IE, but that was years ago. Why haven't those markets moved on more modern browsers?

I worked at a hospital about 10 years ago, and at that time only IE was available on our PC. PC workstation was locked down for security reason and users were not allowed to install 3rd party software without approval (including chrome, etc). Also Chrome's browser extensions were security concerns (esp for medical records, HIPPA regulations, etc) It was also a time when IE was used in enterprise for mostly legacy web…

Do modern healthcare TUIs support UTF-8?

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

otterpro wrote: post #17
mrweasel wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser Do you know why that is? I noticed that there are prominent links to a Korean and Japanese version, presumably because Internet Explorer is still used to a large extend in those two countries. Korea had some crypto stuff that only worked in IE, but that was years ago. Why haven't those markets moved on more modern browsers?

I worked at a hospital about 10 years ago, and at that time only IE was available on our PC. PC workstation was locked down for security reason and users were not allowed to install 3rd party software without approval (including chrome, etc). Also Chrome's browser extensions were security concerns (esp for medical records, HIPPA regulations, etc) It was also a time when IE was used in enterprise for mostly legacy web…

> users were not allowed to install 3rd party software without approval (including chrome, etc)

This should be, and always should be, the case. Chrome is such a bad actor in allowing userspace install, we mark it as malware to prohibit unauthorized installation. Chrome Enterprise policies don't seem to be able to disable this, marking it as malware is the only way out...

That said, we offer two modern browsers to everyone in our environment, Edge and Firefox.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by bartread »

jefft255 wrote: post #79
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Does this mean v1 hasn't even shipped yet? yes

That sounds just unbelievable to me, and I've worked at government agency doing Lotus Note programming on Windows XP past EoL. What was the decision process like, to decide to create a new Java applet in 2021?? Edit: I've seen a later comment mentioning it was started a while ago. But still... this is a dead platform. To me this is on the level of launching a new app targeting Windows XP. It's just a disaster

About 5 years ago I briefly contracted for a large multinational, who shall remain nameless, who were still running a version of some Lotus thing (I forget whether it was Notes or Smartsuite) that was well over a decade out of support, and possibly two decades old, running on a long since obsolete niche operating system, on hardware that probably dated from the 90s.

None of it could be upgraded.

Which would have been fine except that it had dependencies, and those dependencies had dependencies, and... you get the idea. I got the distinct impression that were it to fail or be unplugged every system in the business might slowly and inexorably fail over a period of days or weeks, eventually grinding all trading activity to a halt.

They were trying to figure out what to do about it and, fortunately, the guy in charge of replacing it really seemed to enjoy that kind of problem but, for all I know, they're still running it.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by brundolf »

jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

Imagine being the engineer who has to keep maintaining the IE codebase for the next 8 years. [shudders]

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by nikanj »

saulr wrote: post #75
nikanj wrote: post #62

Edge can't be automated via COM the same way IE could. I wonder what MS is offering as an upgrade path

Edge supports WebDriver: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webdriver-ch...

Looks like the customer would have to download the Edge driver from Microsoft, picking the right version (and supposedly update the drivers as Edge auto-updates).

That's a complete non-starter, compared to automating IE that just requires our .exe to create an IE object via CoCreateInstance(CLSID_InternetExplorerMedium ...), and no additional installation by the customer organization.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by crazygringo »

jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

But that'll only be whitelisted for legacy corporate sites/apps that need it.

Anything new can safely ignore IE11, because Edge won't be using the IE11 engine for it.

This is great, because it'll get corporations to replace the actual IE11 executable with the Edge executable.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by crazygringo »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #11

My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.

What does it matter? Your users will just run it in Edge using IE11 compatibility mode, which "will be supported through at least 2029".

I see no devastation here...

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by [deleted] »

joshmanders wrote: post #40
Kneecaps07 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In an AD environment, you can push out a centralized list that is easy to update. We've found that IE Mode unfortunately works very well. I wish it didn't work so well because it allows us to keep these IE sites around indefinitely.

While it keeps existing IE11 compatible sites around indefinitely, it stops everyone else from having to support IE11 because that's the default and only browser IT allows on the machine.

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