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Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by JohnBooty »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

That's a real end of an era. Internet Explorer's legacy engine is going to be relegated to old grayhair horror stories. Not unhappy it's going away, but it feels like a big chapter is closing.

    relegated to old grayhair horror stories.
The real shame of IE's passing is that we'll forget the lessons we learned and therefore repeat that particular disaster. It's already happening. I'd be happy to relegate the nightmare of IE to old war stories... except the same thing is happening today! Different method, nearly the same end result.

We nearly lost the damn open web to the horror of IE6 and the peak "embrace, extend, extinguish" version of Microsoft.

Now, of course, we're happily creating another browser monoculture and handing the web over to Google. This time, we're doing it with a smile instead of a grimace.

Unlike IE6's reign of incompetent terror, Chrome is actually a competent browser. Techies are embracing the takeover instead of fighting it. It's guaranteed to succeed.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by tinus_hn »

theropost wrote: post #27

As someone actually working in operations, and keeping our current suite of software/apps/etc compatable with these upgrades, I say - Microsoft, your documentation is very poor and lacking, and I have to invent fixes to your lack of effort... probably by design. It is annoying when we can quickly proof up software, and specialized utilities when consulting with business. It is wayyyy to much work to port from IE to E…

Sad trombone. You could have avoided all that if you had written the software to the standards and not to IE. Then you didn’t use the many years you got to transition.

It’s way too much work to port your app? Well guess it isn’t that important after all. Because whether you want it or not, IE is a dead end and it’s going away.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by chungy »

cesarb wrote: post #14
joecool1029 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sorta did through Windows/Microsoft update. They just didn't focus on releasing major editions often or at all for Windows, but it got security patches and minor point releases all the time.

Actually, IIRC the very first versions of Windows Update were an ActiveX control. You had to use IE to run it, so from a certain point of view, that was IE updating itself.

The very first version was a native application for Windows 95 and 98 (First Edition). It was retired in short order in favor of the ActiveX page.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by axelthegerman »

stevencorona wrote: post #9

I work on a SaaS app in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser, and was getting worried watching all of our favorite tools begin to completely drop IE11 support (Tailwinds, Bootstrap) - effectively punishing us for the sins our customers IT orgs. This brings me hope. But only a little. I’m sure they’ll find a way to keep running it.

Only hope is more and more services actually having the balls to drop IE11, e.g. Office 365.

Imagine Google would not support IE11, I'm sure the pressure to upgrade these browser would be much higher (not sure about the health care space though)

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by amanzi »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #11

My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.

To be fair, this has been on the cards for the last couple of years - should be no surprise to anyone.

Also, if there's a genuine need to keep IE around for longer, then you have some options, e.g. deploy Win 10 LTSC for specific legacy use-cases, or publish IE11 via Citrix.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by Kneecaps07 »

ilkkao wrote: post #30
jefftk wrote: post #15

By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029. While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y. Here's hoping th…

I think it will. Just tested the IE mode, you need to manually enable it for every time. I think it's annoying enough.

In an AD environment, you can push out a centralized list that is easy to update. We've found that IE Mode unfortunately works very well. I wish it didn't work so well because it allows us to keep these IE sites around indefinitely.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by cesarb »

chungy wrote: post #33
cesarb wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, IIRC the very first versions of Windows Update were an ActiveX control. You had to use IE to run it, so from a certain point of view, that was IE updating itself.

The very first version was a native application for Windows 95 and 98 (First Edition). It was retired in short order in favor of the ActiveX page.

Interesting. Do you know of anywhere that has screenshots of that native application, for curiosity's sake? When I first used Windows Update in Windows 9x, it was already a (very slow) ActiveX applet.

Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022

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Post by joshmanders »

Kneecaps07 wrote: post #37
ilkkao wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it will. Just tested the IE mode, you need to manually enable it for every time. I think it's annoying enough.

In an AD environment, you can push out a centralized list that is easy to update. We've found that IE Mode unfortunately works very well. I wish it didn't work so well because it allows us to keep these IE sites around indefinitely.

While it keeps existing IE11 compatible sites around indefinitely, it stops everyone else from having to support IE11 because that's the default and only browser IT allows on the machine.
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