My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.
Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
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Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#12I work on a SaaS app in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser, and was getting worried watching all of our favorite tools begin to completely drop IE11 support (Tailwinds, Bootstrap) - effectively punishing us for the sins our customers IT orgs. This brings me hope. But only a little. I’m sure they’ll find a way to keep running it.
>in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser
Do you know why that is?
I noticed that there are prominent links to a Korean and Japanese version, presumably because Internet Explorer is still used to a large extend in those two countries. Korea had some crypto stuff that only worked in IE, but that was years ago. Why haven't those markets moved on more modern browsers?
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#13My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.
This sounds like the stuff I worked on 15 years ago in the oil and gas sector (in fairness, IE + applets _were_ the best choice at the time).
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#14The most important feature any browser ever included was auto-update. If IE had included this, things would be quite different.
It sorta did through Windows/Microsoft update. They just didn't focus on releasing major editions often or at all for Windows, but it got security patches and minor point releases all the time.
Actually, IIRC the very first versions of Windows Update were an ActiveX control. You had to use IE to run it, so from a certain point of view, that was IE updating itself.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#15By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029.
While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y.
Here's hoping that this deprecation removes the expectation that things support IE11, however!
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#16My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.
This sounds like the stuff I worked on 15 years ago in the oil and gas sector (in fairness, IE + applets _were_ the best choice at the time).
That's around when my project was started.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#17I work on a SaaS app in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser, and was getting worried watching all of our favorite tools begin to completely drop IE11 support (Tailwinds, Bootstrap) - effectively punishing us for the sins our customers IT orgs. This brings me hope. But only a little. I’m sure they’ll find a way to keep running it.
>in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser Do you know why that is? I noticed that there are prominent links to a Korean and Japanese version, presumably because Internet Explorer is still used to a large extend in those two countries. Korea had some crypto stuff that only worked in IE, but that was years ago. Why haven't those markets moved on more modern browsers?
I worked at a hospital about 10 years ago, and at that time only IE was available on our PC. PC workstation was locked down for security reason and users were not allowed to install 3rd party software without approval (including chrome, etc). Also Chrome's browser extensions were security concerns (esp for medical records, HIPPA regulations, etc)
It was also a time when IE was used in enterprise for mostly legacy web app that was written long ago. We were also using command line apps (TUI-based) at that time, mostly for nurse and doctors, but we were migrating to the fancy web apps.
As for Korea, IE was mostly for ActiveX, but now most Korean website supports modern browsers ie Chrome.
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#18I hope someone finds a way to use its interface with a better rendering engine, which I think is the best part of IE - no infantile HUGE buttons, patronising error messages, or other dumbed-down things, just a serious UI with good ideas like per-zone trust security settings and user stylesheets built-in. It also doesn't have gobs of phone-home "telemetry".
(Firefox is a close second but is clearly starting to become user-hostile too... and now you may realise much of why they want to kill IE and dumb down Firefox: herding users is easier when they're turned into obedient and docile consumers, instead of masters over how they decide to consume your content.)
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#19My current employer will be devastated. The user interface of our currently in development program requires IE + Java applets.
This sounds like the stuff I worked on 15 years ago in the oil and gas sector (in fairness, IE + applets _were_ the best choice at the time).
It's still very common in a lot of niche industries. Though apparently it's also still supported, since they just embed the entire Trident engine in Edge. So really this is just yet another way for Microsoft to try to force Edge on users?
Re: Internet Explorer 11 (IE11) to be retired on June 15, 2022
#20It is nice to see the long internet nightmare known as Internet Explorer come to a conclusion.
What is the next thing we should wish to see die on the internet?