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Leaving Freenode for a new network
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Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
I sure hope so! ...Not only because "yay, more people on the matrix network"...but because it would bring even more devs and designers (and content writers for documentation!), which would bring continued improvements to the ecosystem of servers and clients/apps as well as the matrix protocol itself! (Obviously, massive shout outs to all who do this tough work already, but more eyes/hands makes the bucket of bugs sha…
Running a Matrix homeserver is still quite a pain in the ass, especially because there is no real automatic way to purge old history. Join a busy room once and pay for it in megs or gigs of text stored in your DB forever. Just using a matrix.org account instead is antisocial at this point because of the resources you're taking from the project, whereas paying for a hosted homeserver might not be something everyone ca…
https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/blob/develop/docs/mess... is the server config for automatically purging old history - it got added last year.
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#193Not sure about people pushing matrix as an alternative. I tried out Matrix several weeks ago and hated everything about it. From the account creation process, shiny modern UI, channel finding options, activity level (since you are basically constantly logged in, channels with even quite a lot of users have next to no activity for days at a time), kind of activity (and most of it was really poor activity, like someone…
>mass migration of channels
...has been happening for the past several hours. It's bedlam...
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
"... now, that such a thing exists in a "democracy"... is a topic on its own broader scope." In other news, the rsync.net Warrant Canary turned 15 years old last month: https://twitter.com/rsyncnet/status/1387090538273206274
Are these reliable? Can a judge compel someone to continue publishing a canary to prevent leaking the information?
And is it unthinkable someone would do it without a legal requirement, to keep their business afloat?
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#195Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#196I submitted this link under the title "freenode IRC network purchased by VPN company PIA" back in 2017: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14101538 it hit the top of the front page, and people complained about my use of the word "purchased" (including freenode staff now that seem to be extremely upset...): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14102030 needless to say the title was edited...
PIA can't feed its own pilots, yet still goes doing outlandish foreign acquisitions.
They will sell their last airliner, but will still cling on to stuff like Roosevelt hotel, and such.
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
With Matrix there is also a lack of good lightweight clients and servers. The official client uses Electron. It will never be an alternative to the IRC with this attitude. There is a Weechat plugin but it's in Python...
weechat-matrix seems to be the lightweight client of choice.
weechat-matrix unfortunately cannot coexist with wee-slack if running on top of Python 3.9 (https://github.com/wee-slack/wee-slack/issues/812, https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix/issues/248), so one has to choose between Slack and Matrix. It's just a bug that will eventually get fixed, but it does make things unnecessarily complicated right now.
With this issue and Matrix being several times slower than any other instant messenger I've ever seen, I'd really prefer communities didn't move to Matrix. :-/
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
In your Settings > General you'll be able to see if you're using the Identity Server, and it let you disconnect your Matrix account from the Vector.IM Identity server if you wish https://i.imgur.com/N09ZPFp.png
Thanks, that made it pretty clear. I somehow expected the identity server to have its own UI but having this integrated in the Matrix client actually makes more sense.
Decentralized/federated is a beautiful thing.
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
At the same time, people used IRC because you could remain anonymous (with IP leakage being the only real issue). Matrix seems like a FBI honeypot asking you for email and phone number.
As stated above, these are completely optional and only used for contact discovery (and password resets in the case of e-mail). Edit: Though I believe that matrix.org requires an e-mail address nowadays. But most homeservers don't.
Matrix DOES NOT require an email or phone#.
Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network
#200It's interesting to me that the draft was censored and mentioned a buyer, while this one only talks about control. For me, it paints the situation worse. Still sad to see FreeNode fall. This will lead to a lot of split communities and dead links. EDIT: Fuchs finds some harsher words[0]: > In the past few weeks, this has changed[2], and the existance of a legal threat to freenode has become apparent. We cannot know th…
A lot of questions here:
> christel, now former head of freenode staff sold `freenode ltd` (a holding company) to a third party
why was the previous owner/director(s) of this company (presumably christel) and what rights did they have to sell - and where did the money go?
EDIT: yes https://opencorporates.com/companies/gb/10308021 also, it is claimed by AL that christel was harrassed. Fuchs contests this.
> it seems that Andrew Lee - despite zero involvement in the day-to-day operations of Freenode - has decided that ownership of the domains entitles him to ownership of Freenode as a network and community, and intended to give his own people administrative access to the network
so, did AL get access to "the network" and if so, how? It seems AL sponsored ~3k/month, but did they also sponsor, and thus control, the hardware too?
> this company has absolutely no operational involvement. It does not own any servers, it does not employ any of the staff
Then why are staff resigning? What are they resigning from?
> The democratically elected ... were removed by force[3]
The link shows the 'people' page listing different people in various roles. What does "changed by force means"? That someone was able to edit a webpage? Or something more (like access revoked)?
How did the website content get changed? By someone with access to the original site, or a clone? Was the domain redirected at any point?
EDIT: AL claims "tomaw" changed the staff page. Fuchs says he made the change - which further complicates what is meant by "by force"...
> have been informed that they are not entitled to act in their respective capacity
How, and by who?