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Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by Ndymium »

aerovistae wrote: post #32
supermatt wrote: post #13

A gem from one of the linked chatlogs (Ariadne is security chair for Alpine linux and a prolific FOSS contributer): [23:07:35] i mean, i have important work to do. dealing with an IRC network is not really something i want to be doing this decade outside of fucking around for fun with IRCX [23:07:51] i have code running on two planets

Who is that? And I guess now that I think about it, who is trying to poach him or her? I have no context for this comment and I'm probably not the only one.

There is more context and link to the full(er) log here: https://twitter.com/ariadneconill/status/1393006479700078595

I will not attempt to summarise it as I don't have enough information on the situation.

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by snthd »

blibble wrote: post #15

I submitted this link under the title "freenode IRC network purchased by VPN company PIA" back in 2017: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14101538 it hit the top of the front page, and people complained about my use of the word "purchased" (including freenode staff now that seem to be extremely upset...): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14102030 needless to say the title was edited...

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c...

Shows Mr Lee aquired >50% voting rights in 2017.

(via https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c...)

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by BluSyn »

My (limited) understanding is Andrew Lee has been a large source of donations to Freenode for many years. As well as a significant benefactor to open source projects and founder of privacy focused services (PIA being one). So this ownership change may be simply an extension of that charity into a formal business arrangement.

I don't know the particulars behind-the-scenes, just trying to not immediately assume the worst.

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by Ndymium »

donw wrote: post #18

For somebody with zero context: what are the implications of this?

A bunch of people will probably move to libera.chat, some to Matrix, some won't care at all. Communities may splinter to smaller pieces. As for Freenode, it's not really clear what the new "owner"'s plans are and if they can administer it without the volunteers that left. I guess time will tell.

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by silicon2401 »

kuroguro wrote: post #12

Q: Do accounts/channels that have been inactive for years get purged automatically? Used to have some stuff there, not sure if it's worth the time to find the correct emails/passwords.

Piggybacking off this, what's a good way to archive Freenode content? I think I may still have some content on there from over a decade ago

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by icy »

silicon2401 wrote: post #45
icy wrote: post #21

Made the switch. I quite like the short cloaks: icy (znc@user/icy) Staff are a little overloaded, understandably. Nickserv works, so now's the time to grab that nick you couldn't get on Freenode!

what did you switch to?

irc.libera.chat:6697 (SSL)

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by marcinzm »

thinkingemote wrote: post #28

It seems inevitable that any Good company with great TOS with promises to never turn can be bought and changed towards evil. We've seen it time and time again. It's inevitable? How can we structure these organisations from creation so that this cannot happen? freenode believed the purchaser promises. What should they have done differently?

Make it a foundation/non-profit with some form of specific charter. Some sort of actual management structure with a board and distributed power. If you want even more safety have some sort of larger voting base that can replace the board via some process.

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Post by mxuribe »

Thorentis wrote: post #16

Perhaps this could be the rise of Matrix many of us have been waiting for? I hope many freenode channel operators and admins encourage people in that direction, rather than trying to start alternative IRC networks that will die out.

I sure hope so! ...Not only because "yay, more people on the matrix network"...but because it would bring even more devs and designers (and content writers for documentation!), which would bring continued improvements to the ecosystem of servers and clients/apps as well as the matrix protocol itself! (Obviously, massive shout outs to all who do this tough work already, but more eyes/hands makes the bucket of bugs shallow, right?) Plus, not unlike the spike in activity in 2016/2017 around the fediverse - primarily Mastodon, where nontrivial numbers of people started their presence on the fediverse away from FB, etc. - i hope lots more homeservers start appearing for folks to host their own matrix homeservers (or at least host it for/on behalf of their communities and such). And, if any spike in activity does not in fact occur, that's ok too...things seem to be growing slow and steady anyway for the matrix network. ;-)
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