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Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#21
Made the switch. I quite like the short cloaks:

    icy (znc@user/icy)
Staff are a little overloaded, understandably. Nickserv works, so now's the time to grab that nick you couldn't get on Freenode!

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#23
I don't know about the process of the sale/takeover of Freenode, but I'm a long time PIA user and have a fair amount of trust and goodwill for London Trust Media (the owner of PIA and now Freenode).

- PIA is much better designed for privacy than many competitors

- They don't seem to get into the "snake oil privacy" marketing that so many VPN providers seem to be doing

- They have been fairly open with how their tech works and it all sounds reasonable

- London Trust Media have sponsored the Open Rights Group (the UK's equivalent of the EFF) in the past and engaged in ORG events.

It's hard to know how much you can trust an organisation as an outsider, but for me they tick most of the good/reasonable boxes. They may have messed Freenode around, but I'd be surprised if there was a significant danger to user privacy here.

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#26
This sounds really bad, but I know nothing of the other side of the story. It's been a couple of years since I used freenode. I worked up some tests for Stripe integration, and followed a developer of something or other and bought him some whisky (Adam Shaw maybe? I can't recall).

Anyway, is there a better network for finding these groups now?

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#27
post #9

If this leads to a mass exodus from Freenode, it'll probably significantly reduce overall IRC usage. Communities will fracture, people will set up random splinter networks that will die off in a few months, and lots of open-source projects that already want to be using something Javascripty like Slack or Discord are going to use this as the motivating thing to make the switch. Personally I'm staying put on Freenode b…

How many would move to Matrix?

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#28
It seems inevitable that any Good company with great TOS with promises to never turn can be bought and changed towards evil. We've seen it time and time again. It's inevitable?

How can we structure these organisations from creation so that this cannot happen?

freenode believed the purchaser promises. What should they have done differently?

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#30
post #5

I just got a message from the staff on freenode: [Global Notice] Hi all. It feels like my moral responsibility to inform all users that administrative control of freenode and its user data will soon change hands, and I will be resigning from freenode staff effective immediately. It's been an honour to help you all. Sad to see a hostile takeover of Freenode. Its controlled by Private Internet Access now.

What’s the connection to PIA? EDIT: Andrew Lee is founder of PIA. From Wikipedia: > The company was founded by the American-born Andrew Lee.[6][7] London Trust Media also owns the Freenode IRC network.[8][failed verification]

It's not owned by PIA now. PIA and London Trust Media was sold by Lee; who moved most other holdings to "Imperial Family Companies", which is effectively the owner of freenode: https://imperialfamily.com
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