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Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

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Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

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I find the principle of a "health pass" a little disturbing. Do we want to live in a society where we have to prove something about our health in order to attend events ?

If the alternative is death, sure.

Which it certainly is not, if you look at the numbers.

Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

#12

I find the principle of a "health pass" a little disturbing. Do we want to live in a society where we have to prove something about our health in order to attend events ?

In general no, we don't. But pragmatically in the current circumstances this seems to be the best option (or least bad) until things are sorted.

Do you think governments are going to give up their power after implementing digital passes?

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Gattaca. I’m curious tho where does it stop. For example, US stopped TB vax long time ago while half of EU continues. Those born in EU bear the scars on their arms from the vax. Sure TB isn’t as prevalent in the US as it used to be but there’s nothing stopping it from coming on a plane.

Bacterial infections of the lungs are very hard to fight esp with the increase of antibiotic resistance. A single cough from a TB infected individual used to be a death sentence to the receiver (prior to antibiotics).

So where does all this start and end. If we are serious about health while traveling then let’s go all in across the germ spectrum and see what happens ;-)

I’d love to see planes reporting on cabin air quality as well. I’m sure I’m not the only one who gets sick (pre Covid) when traveling long haul.

Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

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post #13

> citizens will have to present the pass either as a printed document, or a code in the french government's TousAntiCovid mobile application What about people who don't have phones or printers?

They give you the paper at the vaccination center or when getting your test result.

Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

#16

I find the principle of a "health pass" a little disturbing. Do we want to live in a society where we have to prove something about our health in order to attend events ?

In general no, we don't. But pragmatically in the current circumstances this seems to be the best option (or least bad) until things are sorted.

> current circumstances

As Milton said, "Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program."

Officials have already hinted that masks, lockdowns, etc. will be implemented (at least seasonally) forever.

Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general no, we don't. But pragmatically in the current circumstances this seems to be the best option (or least bad) until things are sorted.

Do you think governments are going to give up their power after implementing digital passes?

Yes. There is no reason for people to keep being tested all the time for Covid if/when that is no longer a risk. Once/if the risk has passed this will all stop because there is neither a justification nor value for governments to continue.

It's a little paranoid to claim that governments are continuously trying to create totalitarian states. Or that, in any case, they can do what they want, they can't. We already see that with all the debates on these passes and safety measures put in place. They are a hard sell to the public and everyone's watching. There is already huge pressure not to have them for a day longer than absolutely necessary and politically governments will have to stop as soon as possible.

Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

#18

I find the principle of a "health pass" a little disturbing. Do we want to live in a society where we have to prove something about our health in order to attend events ?

I guess you never traveled internationally or to countries which have mandatory vaccinations. Polio, Yellow Fever etc.

Re: Show HN: How does the French health pass work?

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post #13

> citizens will have to present the pass either as a printed document, or a code in the french government's TousAntiCovid mobile application What about people who don't have phones or printers?

You present the document given either when you got your vaccine shot, or when you did your pcr test ( both actually includes a signed datamatrix that you can scan with the app )
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