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Material You – The next stage for Material Design

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Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

#71

I love the concept. Here's the problem: "We built upon this insight to generate unique Material palettes for everyone, derived from a personal signal—wallpaper—that can be applied to their entire experience." I like my wallpapers to be striking, geometric, interesting, but ultimately distinctive from the rest of my phone, where I do want colours. So I hope there will be another way to generate signals for the phone c…

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Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

#72

I can’t help but feel Google’s only consistency is in their trying to be clean, cool, and innovative, but not actually getting the details right, and ending up looking juvenile and Fisher-Price-like. On mobile, the font is too big and too ragged. The colors and shapes look like a Kleenex box aesthetic. The spacing isn’t all that great. I’m absolutely puzzled why a behemoth like Google can’t have exceptional, human de…

To be honest this just sounds like you're used to whatever Apple is doing and nothing Google would do (except outright copy iOS) would feel "ok" for you.

That's fine - we get used to stuff and rant when it changes in ways we don't expect. But the beta on my Android phone looks amazing and IMO better than iPadOS I have on a tablet.

Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

#73
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I feel in general Android UI is vastly better than Apple. Apple had a better ui before Material design came into picture.

Would be nice to hear a practical example or two in order to understand from where your opinion springs.

> Would be nice to hear a practical example or two in order to understand from where your opinion springs.

Kinda amazing how all "practical examples" are being downvoted by Apple fans on this site :D

Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

#74

Seems like this will be an unpopular opinion, but I like the design. How appealing a design is is personal preference, and I think a lot of the elements advertised, say, squiggly sliders, show the flexibility of the system; it's not like all sliders will be squiggly, but it opens up the possibility while still working with the rest of the design language. The emphasis on customization is important as well - a more fl…

> Seems like this will be an unpopular opinion, but I like the design.

There seems to be a huge amount of positive feedback, both from media and Android users, so it's not an unpopular opinion at all. It seems to mostly be unpopular opinion between existing iOS users :)

Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would be nice to hear a practical example or two in order to understand from where your opinion springs.

The general UI design is far simpler cleaner than iOS. iOS feels very dated. Notification dropdown is a big UI improvement. Navigation is better because of back button unlike the tiny back link in iOS. They did change the time picker which i had issues before because of the scroll picker(my hands are sweaty). These are wrt iPad, which i use mostly for testing iOS apps not a normal day to day use.

For better or for worse, being functional and having good (visual) design can often be measured distinctly. Ideally they go hand-in-hand (i.e., good visual design ought to positively serve functionality). Most of Android’s visual design, regardless of functional convenience and consistency, feels cobbled together by people who downloaded Inkscape. The typography, iconography, animation, etc. are, in my opinion, all off.

Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

#77

i find it hard to believe no one maintaining these 'material.io' pages doesn't notice the animated sticky header [0] popping in and out again and again and again as you scroll down the page. [0] https://i.imgur.com/HPLI85T.gif

Material.io pages are a great study into the problems with Material in general. Each iteration has glaring problems.

Links are not links. Buttons are not buttons: https://grumpy.website/post/0Ra93yy33 The current design still suffers from this.

Fonts in pictures: https://grumpy.website/post/0TEKUvqDX

Contrast: https://grumpy.website/post/0TEJkwzPA

Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

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I can’t help but feel Google’s only consistency is in their trying to be clean, cool, and innovative, but not actually getting the details right, and ending up looking juvenile and Fisher-Price-like. On mobile, the font is too big and too ragged. The colors and shapes look like a Kleenex box aesthetic. The spacing isn’t all that great. I’m absolutely puzzled why a behemoth like Google can’t have exceptional, human de…

To be honest this just sounds like you're used to whatever Apple is doing and nothing Google would do (except outright copy iOS) would feel "ok" for you. That's fine - we get used to stuff and rant when it changes in ways we don't expect. But the beta on my Android phone looks amazing and IMO better than iPadOS I have on a tablet.

I disagree. You really have to appreciate the scale of Apple’s efforts, and look beyond iOS, which everybody always gets fixated on. This is much broader than “I prefer how iOS looks”. Their documentation, hardware, software, marketing, audio communications, videos and commercials, stores, clothing, packaging, etc. exude consistency and extraordinary care to visual design. Apple’s design is pervasive and truly their identity. As I said elsewhere, they’re not perfect, but I’d claim with enough effort and without any logical gymnastics, we could measure this vague idea to be at least an order of magnitude greater than Google’s.

Re: Material You – The next stage for Material Design

#80

I can’t help but feel Google’s only consistency is in their trying to be clean, cool, and innovative, but not actually getting the details right, and ending up looking juvenile and Fisher-Price-like. On mobile, the font is too big and too ragged. The colors and shapes look like a Kleenex box aesthetic. The spacing isn’t all that great. I’m absolutely puzzled why a behemoth like Google can’t have exceptional, human de…

I feel in general Android UI is vastly better than Apple. Apple had a better ui before Material design came into picture.

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