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LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

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Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

#92

I have been researching making a therapy chat bot for years... it's going to happen. https://github.com/andrewt3000/carl_voice

To be honest, the thought of AI doing therapy (and it's reliance on big data) sounds very black mirror to me. How long do you think it'll take ad companies to do an end run around patient protections and start serving ads based on "metadata"? Got anxiety? Try our new meds! Worried about the future? How about some life insurance or annuities? Etc. Things will get very exploitative very fast.

The limitation of a human therapist is the 6 inch chimp brain and how much information it can store, understand, how quickly it can construct a healthy way of delivering that complex information etc.

These limits can and will be blown away by bots given the amount of data they can crunch. Only issue is unlike in games like Chess or Go where the end state is clearly defined, with therapy its open ended and unknown what type of end states are possible.

Just a matter of time before all paths get mapped out.

Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

#93

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> Disclosure: work at Google, opinions my own. Disclosure: don't care. why do only google employees do this?

Disclosure: I work at Google too and my opinions are also my own. We are told internally that when we discuss Google related matters online that we should be cognizant of the what/where/how/why of our communication. Disclosing is—for me—both a reminder for myself and an attempt at a hedge against accidentally representing Google.

Seems like people like to make a point of where they work

Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

#94

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> Disclosure: work at Google, opinions my own. Disclosure: don't care. why do only google employees do this?

Disclosure: I work at Google too and my opinions are also my own. We are told internally that when we discuss Google related matters online that we should be cognizant of the what/where/how/why of our communication. Disclosing is—for me—both a reminder for myself and an attempt at a hedge against accidentally representing Google.

I never worked at Google and I probably never will. Still, if a boss tried to censor/alter my speech I do in my spare time using my own equipment and connectivity, I wouldn't like it.

Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclosure: I work at Google too and my opinions are also my own. We are told internally that when we discuss Google related matters online that we should be cognizant of the what/where/how/why of our communication. Disclosing is—for me—both a reminder for myself and an attempt at a hedge against accidentally representing Google.

I never worked at Google and I probably never will. Still, if a boss tried to censor/alter my speech I do in my spare time using my own equipment and connectivity, I wouldn't like it.

There’s more to it than that. Most Googlers (all?) are stock holders for one.

Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

#97
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As a woman I appreciate it. I get so tired of things we order around being named after women.

IMHO, we probably should try to get to the point that bots/assistants are less "a thing we order around" and "a thing we communicate with", if partially because of the pretty bad vibes of "creating slaves" or being comfortable ordering such programs around, regardless of the degree we are confident we haven't accomplished computer sentience. It's just a bad pattern to be in. I recall a lot of work going into making C…

This post makes me feel weird. Because I don't want to be forced to put on niceties for an inanimate object. I want to order my device around. Not as a power trip, but simply because it's a device, whose function is to complete commands.

I'm sympathetic to your points on why that's a bad vibe and might not be great when the line is blurred, but... I don't know. It seem strange to afford rights, if only conversational/social rights, to an object.

Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

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A lot of this is cultural, imo. I grew up in Eastern Europe, where it's very common to have two people talking exactly in that way about a common topic: "X? Yeah, my mom Y". It took me a while to learn that I can come across as self-absorbed and obnoxious in the US when speaking that way, so I have to consciously remember to ask questions about the person or the topic they presented, and avoid introducing my own rela…

Yeah, I grew up in the Midwest and even there it's super common to respond to X with a personal anecdote about X. I think it makes the conversation more personal. Anyone can say, "Oh cool! What songs have you learned?" Only _you_ (you know, the friend they chose to talk to) can say, "Oh, that's cool! My grandpa gave me a cool guitar that I've been meaning to learn to play." I find the best approach is to sandwich a p…

This is a good point, it creates a dynamic with more bilateral exchange and gives them an opportunity to ask a follow up if they're interested.

Re: LaMDA: Google's New Conversation Technology

#100
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We really need to stop calling things "lambda". You'd think Google would grasp the concept of unique names on the internet, but I suppose they can always push their own stuff to the top.

This anodyne name is likely because there was a small internal shitstorm over calling it Meena because some folks were tired of chat bots being given women’s names

Stop confirming my worst biases about Google culture!
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