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Re: 1Password for Linux

#201

Sorry 1Password, it took you so long to make this move that I had sold my soul to LastPass in the meantime.

I just switched to 1Password from LastPass after LastPass recently restructured their pricing, and it was very smooth. Just imported by passwords and they all worked.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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I just use pass: https://www.passwordstore.org/

No, but in all seriousness, I emphatically DO NOT UNDERSTAND the extent to which people place trust in external services to manage passwords. While I appreciate that they do have good skin in the game by being paid, etc -- your password storage on SOMEONE ELSE'S MACHINE fundamentally creates another huge attack vector/opportunity to screw it up, when they also must be accessed locally somehow. I appreciate it if you'…

> * I emphatically DO NOT UNDERSTAND the extent to which people place trust in external services to manage passwords.*

I'm generally fine with this if the password vault is end-to-end encrypted, the vault's password is never shared with the server, and the server doesn't have access to the plaintext passwords at all.

At that point you have to trust that the crypto used for the vault is done correctly (and that trust is easier to come by if the clients are open source). But that's the same trust you'd have to extend if you used another solution (e.g. Bitwarden) that allowed you to self-host the sync service.

If you only access password-protected resources from one system, then you don't need sync at all, and this problem goes away. If you do need sync, you're going to have this problem no matter what.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#203

What's the password recovery process like with 1Password for family accounts? I'm the administrator for my family's account on LastPass and my wife forgot her master password and has now burned the associated email. The account was unused and empty so nothing was lost but it highlighted to me that account recovery was not smooth or seamless. As an administrator you can't just issue a password reset on their behalf. I…

If it were possible to recover lost passwords as in your wife's case, then I absolutely would not trust the service at all. If you forget your master password, the passwords contained must be unrecoverable at that point. If they aren't, then that means the server/service has access to your plaintext passwords, and that is (or at least should be) an unacceptable security risk.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#205

I have always wondered why we can’t make visible the master password when typing it. My master is very long (pass phrase) and I have to type it very carefully, it’s even harder on mobile. Such a pain ! Isn’t it a basic UX pattern to allow the user to show/hide the password as type it (with the popular eye icon at the end of the password input) ? Am I missing something ? Is this not present for security reason ?

I agree, a button next to the field would be nice. I'm most often alone while typing the master password, it would save me a lot of tries.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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PSA: Note that AgileBits intentionally hides the standalone license option and pushes subscription as the only visible scheme to get the application. This is a long standing dark pattern, and though the support staff will admit on their forums or here that the standalone license does exist, you wouldn't be able to find it without some special incantations on the forums. They will keep reiterating that it's for your o…

The sync story bothers me. In my mind, Enpass is one that does it correctly. They don't offer a sync service, instead they let you choose from a number of popular ones (OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, and a few others), one of which you probably already use. There's no need for yet another cloud service to solve this already solved problem.

I used to think like that but syncing files and syncing passwords across multiple devices are different things, mainly because of conflict management. If you have a conflict on a file which has been modified on two devices, there is not that much do you can do except using the most recent update based on timestamps and keeping the other one as a backup file. Dropbox does that for example. For password entries, it’s possible to be much master and do the same per entry, and even merge the fields within an entry. To do this in a reliable way on a remote file system, I think a file locking or a compare and swap mechanism is required.

Another constraint with using a file sync service is this is introducing a kitchen and egg problem when we lose everything. We first need to restore access to the file sync service to then be able to recover the password file. Which means we can’t use the password manager for the file sync service. Not a deal breaker, as it is what I’m currently doing, but I’ve always wondered how it would go after a catastrophe like losing everything in a home fire.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Okay, which site was this? The site it said it was? > Is there a password I'm supposed to change? Do you have a password saved or memorized? Does the site have a link or form to log in? > Was it actually a password I stopped using 5 years ago, but is still floating out there somewhere? They can't be sure. Why not change it to be safe?

>> Okay, which site was this? >The site it said it was? I'm sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what sites fall under the banner of the "FooBarBaz.NET" dark web data dump.

What is FooBarBaz.NET supposed to represent? The LinkedIn breach affected LinkedIn for example.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#208

What's the password recovery process like with 1Password for family accounts? I'm the administrator for my family's account on LastPass and my wife forgot her master password and has now burned the associated email. The account was unused and empty so nothing was lost but it highlighted to me that account recovery was not smooth or seamless. As an administrator you can't just issue a password reset on their behalf. I…

> What's the password recovery process like with 1Password for family accounts?

Short answer:

When 1Password creates an encrypted vault, it will make a copy of the key, encrypt it with the public key of another family member (e.g. you) and hold the encrypted result in escrow on 1Password’s servers.

If your wife forgets her master password and chooses to request recovery, a special procedure starts. First, 1Password asks you to confirm that the request is legit. If you confirm, the server will delete and re-create your wife’s account, then send you her new public key and the encrypted escrow key. Your app uses your private key to decrypt it. (Now your app has your wife’s vault key.) Your app re-encrypts it with her new public key, uploads the result and forgets the key. Finally, the server sends your wife her encrypted vault together with the thing your app just did. Now your wife can access her vault again.

Long answer: see 1Password’s security white paper [1].

[1]: https://1password.com/files/1Password-White-Paper.pdf

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They do not say that they do not decrypt your entire vault into browser memory, because they do. I am sorry but this is just wrong. I have close to 6,000 items in my 1Password across family and business accounts. Loading everything into memory all the time would be ridiculous.

I agree, but I was under the impression that the vaults were encrypted as a whole, but according to the security white paper that changed at some point. So you can decrypt individual passwords. So I’m happy and am in the process of correcting my comments. Sorry.

Thank you for following up, CamJN!

Re: 1Password for Linux

#210

I'm a big fan of 1Password. I've been paying for it for years. A few years ago I got my partner setup in a few minutes and now they have strong passwords everywhere. Its got great features for sharing vaults with other people so I've got password managers setup for the kids too. My partner and I both have personal vaults, we have a shared vault for financial stuff, and a shared vault for our media accounts (that we s…

What does 1Password do better than LastPass? I pay nothing and I don't feel like any features are missing.
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