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Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by Goronmon » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 7:49 PM UTC

aristidb wrote: post #30

Well. I added Markus Persson (aka Notch, of Minecraft fame) to my Following circle, and... his posts are always bumped to the top of the stream because so many people comment on them. Posts can also take up a lot of space when there are attached pictures/videos and comments. So Twitter has these huge advantages that everything is streamlined and kept short. Google+ does not; and it's not really necessary if you don't…

It's funny because the same exact thing happened to me. Notch now dominates my Stream, to the point I might just remove him from my circles.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by hollerith » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 7:57 PM UTC

nprincigalli wrote: post #24

timmyd wrote: post #3

I think we all need to appreciate the fact most people use Facebook and/or Twitter because they are agnostic - that is, are not tied or linked to any singular email account. I have a Gmail account - albeit "lay persons" in the tech world - use Yahoo or Hotmail, and sure, some use Gmail [shocking generalization :)]. Most, in some capacity, usually check FB and/or Twitter on their mobiles and website daily. Many do not…

Tried with this workaround: Create a circle, add a person to it, then share some content in the circle. Everyone who isn't yet member of Google+ gets an invite. Let us know if it's still working.

When about an hour ago, someone to whom I sent an invite clicked on the big orange button in the email, they got a page telling them, "Already invited? We've temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon."

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by hollerith » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 7:59 PM UTC

mcrittenden wrote: post #22

macrael wrote: post #19

One of the things that is great about Twitter is that you can subscribe to someone else's posts without them having to take any action. Is something similar available on Google+? Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me? I'd appreciate any clarity on this, I think that the asymmetry and follower driven nature of Twi…

> Is something similar available on Google+? Yes, you can add someone to your circles without them doing the same to you. There's even a default circle called "Following" for "People that you don't know but find their posts interesting" (i.e., basically the same thing as following famous people on Twitter). > Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? Sort of. They can be directed at any combina…

>> I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me?

> Right, you can add anyone you want to your circles, but you can't touch their circles at all.

Not only that, but also you cannot learn the names of the circles they put you in.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by groks » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:00 PM UTC

Goronmon wrote: post #31

aristidb wrote: post #30

Well. I added Markus Persson (aka Notch, of Minecraft fame) to my Following circle, and... his posts are always bumped to the top of the stream because so many people comment on them. Posts can also take up a lot of space when there are attached pictures/videos and comments. So Twitter has these huge advantages that everything is streamlined and kept short. Google+ does not; and it's not really necessary if you don't…

It's funny because the same exact thing happened to me. Notch now dominates my Stream, to the point I might just remove him from my circles.

At the top right of each post is a tiny arrow in a circle. It's a menu -- choose 'Mute this post' and it will no longer float to the top.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by 5l » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:02 PM UTC

ender7 wrote: post #13

There is one thing that Google+ currently lacks that both Twitter and Facebook have: Like us on Facebook! facebook.com/ProductFoo Follow us on Twitter! @ProductFoo In G+'s (hypothetical, since they haven't done it yet) case, neither the phrase nor the url are as catchy or memorable: +1 us on Google! plus.google.com/ProductFoo

How about "circle us" on Google+?

Edit: I did see mentioned on G+ that they would eventually build in support for organisations, so presumably you would add them to one of your circles if you wanted to receive updates.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by crb » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:12 PM UTC

aristidb wrote: post #30

Well. I added Markus Persson (aka Notch, of Minecraft fame) to my Following circle, and... his posts are always bumped to the top of the stream because so many people comment on them. Posts can also take up a lot of space when there are attached pictures/videos and comments. So Twitter has these huge advantages that everything is streamlined and kept short. Google+ does not; and it's not really necessary if you don't…

Also known as the "Scoble virus": https://plus.google.com/111091089527727420853/posts/gEpTBbWs.... To quote Googler Kelly Ellis:

Pro tip. Right now your stream is ordered by most-recent comment. We're working hard on improving this, but in the mean time, if you're tired of seeing the same post come up near the top of your stream, you can click on the little arrow and select "Mute this post." This is useful for those Scoble updates...

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by xbryanx » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:26 PM UTC

ecaron wrote: post #27

I think Yammer has more to fear from Google+ than Twitter. Once you can auto-integrate Google+ with Google Apps, you've essentially destroyed 99% of Yammer's value proposition.

Agreed. Now Google just needs to getting around to enabling "Accounts" with Google Apps. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Apps/thread?tid...

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by kristofferR » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:39 PM UTC

aristidb wrote: post #30

Well. I added Markus Persson (aka Notch, of Minecraft fame) to my Following circle, and... his posts are always bumped to the top of the stream because so many people comment on them. Posts can also take up a lot of space when there are attached pictures/videos and comments. So Twitter has these huge advantages that everything is streamlined and kept short. Google+ does not; and it's not really necessary if you don't…

Why was crb's really useful post marked as dead?

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by macrael » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:43 PM UTC

mcrittenden wrote: post #22

macrael wrote: post #19

One of the things that is great about Twitter is that you can subscribe to someone else's posts without them having to take any action. Is something similar available on Google+? Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me? I'd appreciate any clarity on this, I think that the asymmetry and follower driven nature of Twi…

> Is something similar available on Google+? Yes, you can add someone to your circles without them doing the same to you. There's even a default circle called "Following" for "People that you don't know but find their posts interesting" (i.e., basically the same thing as following famous people on Twitter). > Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? Sort of. They can be directed at any combina…

So by adding someone to one of my circles, I'm automatically added to their "Following" circle? It seems like you mean the opposite, that I would put someone I don't know really well into my "Following" circle, but that still means that I don't get a feed of their postings, right?

Unless, as someone else mentioned, they set their post to "public", does that post then show up for everyone who has the poster in their circle, regardless of wether the follower is in a poster's circle?

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Post by BrianBerk » Fri, Jul 01, 2011, 8:52 PM UTC

ender7 wrote: post #13

There is one thing that Google+ currently lacks that both Twitter and Facebook have: Like us on Facebook! facebook.com/ProductFoo Follow us on Twitter! @ProductFoo In G+'s (hypothetical, since they haven't done it yet) case, neither the phrase nor the url are as catchy or memorable: +1 us on Google! plus.google.com/ProductFoo

There is one thing I love about +1: It's a lot more neutral than Like or Follow. I can +1 a story about, say, someone getting shot and it won't look as if I like that someone was shot.