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Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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I've been through this and can definitely offer some advice, assuming you are pursuing a partnership: - Buy a domain for your email and have a website; the website can just claim it's "coming soon" and look modern and promising. - Ensure your email is personalized and targeted, and include direct propositions to how you will increase revenue or decrease cost or offer growth — something, anything — to the company. Sup…

Hi I am in the same boat as OP. I have an MVP but essentially not able to connect to Enterprises. Any tips or advice that helps me navigate this would help me immensely. Could you contact me via email. Appreciate your help.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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One of the things that has consistently shocked me as I've gotten older is how hard some companies make it for people to actually give them money! I'm like, "Hey - I'm waving these hundred dollar bills here for you to take in exchange for your product." And they're like, "Meh.."

I have this same problem. Sometimes I send many emails out to a sales team, asking for details for how to get their service and simply get no response.

We don't even get to the point where they know I represent a relatively small company.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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post #26

I've been through this and can definitely offer some advice, assuming you are pursuing a partnership: - Buy a domain for your email and have a website; the website can just claim it's "coming soon" and look modern and promising. - Ensure your email is personalized and targeted, and include direct propositions to how you will increase revenue or decrease cost or offer growth — something, anything — to the company. Sup…

Hey akarma, is it ok if I could email you for some advice as well?

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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Starting a startup is starting a company. Starting a company is a business thing, not an engineering thing. Think of it as being able to sell a product, before you even have a product to sell. You cannot really operate 'as a company' without having an actual licensed company. You may need to do a bit more leg work before you start this venture in earnest.

Then reach out to the enterprise. You have to know exactly who to route your request to in the company; you can't just talk to "sales" or "customer support" as those people have no idea how to talk to their own engineering groups. You'll need to know the language that the particular group in an enterprise speaks, so they will actually consider your message, prioritize it, and do some work on it. Cold-calling generally doesn't work unless you are very good at sales. You will probably need to engage with someone at the enterprise on a different pretext, and slowly shift the focus over to the thing you actually want, and hope whoever you're talking to will do some leg work for you to get you to the right group.

Try to position your request as an offer to do something for them. I am building a product that delivers your product more customers, I am building a product that supports all of your competitors and figured you might want to be supported too, I want my development team to work with your API and give you feedback about how well it works for us and report bugs to you. But don't make it sound like a sales call. Make it sound like somebody in the company already expects this and you're just trying to coordinate with them on something they already want to do.

But if they actually don't want a lot of use cases right now, you may have to position it as a test case that isn't being released to new customers, so they don't have to worry about building out their production support infrastructure and being on the hook for it going down. SLAs and EULAs are also a concern. Then of course there's data privacy, regulations, etc to consider. In many cases you may need to establish a legal contract in order for both parties to be covered.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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post #33
post #26

I've been through this and can definitely offer some advice, assuming you are pursuing a partnership: - Buy a domain for your email and have a website; the website can just claim it's "coming soon" and look modern and promising. - Ensure your email is personalized and targeted, and include direct propositions to how you will increase revenue or decrease cost or offer growth — something, anything — to the company. Sup…

Hey akarma, is it ok if I could email you for some advice as well?

Sure thing, I added an email to my HN page

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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I've gotten emails from random people/ companies in the past. They found my name on LinkedIn and proceed to spam firstname.lastname@company.domain These get ignored first time round. Second time they get marked as spam. Third time onwards, well I just get a bit annoyed. But I never reply. I should probably try to block that email straight up. For example, I've received emails from someone every Monday for 5 weeks in…

Whenever this happens I create a filter and skip the inbox from that sender.

There should be some kind of reporting system where you can get entire domains / organisations blacklisted from ever sending emails to any recipient, I think a harsh stance like that is the only thing that will keep our inboxes clean

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Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever this happens I create a filter and skip the inbox from that sender.

There should be some kind of reporting system where you can get entire domains / organisations blacklisted from ever sending emails to any recipient, I think a harsh stance like that is the only thing that will keep our inboxes clean

An alternative is to consider that the design of email (everything* going into your inbox by default) is broken, and consider that simply knowing someone’s email address shouldn’t grant access to any attention. I’m a big fan of HEY for exactly this reason. Go ahead and send me as many sales emails as you like - they’ll never notify me until I explicitly grant the sender permission.

Besides incremental UX improvements over time, the email experience is not well aligned with the way things actually work. The assumption that people are good actors is a poor one and almost everyone who uses email is stuck with an unmaintainable backlog of crap as a result. Instead of further incremental improvements to the same mess, switch things up.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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post #26

I've been through this and can definitely offer some advice, assuming you are pursuing a partnership: - Buy a domain for your email and have a website; the website can just claim it's "coming soon" and look modern and promising. - Ensure your email is personalized and targeted, and include direct propositions to how you will increase revenue or decrease cost or offer growth — something, anything — to the company. Sup…

Hey, thanks for the reply. I should have clarified in my OP but I'm not looking for some special integration or deal, which yeah would be a much higher bar. I am actually just trying to sign up for the services/APIs these companies provide.

And sure would appreciate a chat, Ive added my email to my profile.

Re: Ask HN: Startup, how to get companies to take you seriously?

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What type of API integrations would you need? In my experience, it can be very difficult to get any type of support from a big company if you're not paying. If possible, I would offer a free POC to a potential customer, who is also a customer of the services you want to integrate with.

I don't think I can edit my post but I should have mentioned in the OP I'm not looking for a custom deal or anything, I am actually just trying to sign up for the services/APIs these companies provide.
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