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Re: 1Password for Linux

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post #89

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Thanks for the kind words! Glad to hear it is working out. We have beta support for mutual unlock of the Linux app and browser extension so you can unlock in the browser using your fingerprint. You can check it out here: https://1password.community/discussion/120745/a-better-way-t... - Ben, 1Password

Just a warning for people who don't know the parent is referring to the extension formerly called 1Password X (now just 1Password in the browser because AgileBits wants you to use that one) which puts ALL OF YOUR PASSWORDS into your browser's memory.

This is an interesting concern, and you've pasted this identical comment at least three times in this thread. Could you elaborate or link to somewhere that explains this in detail?

This comment on its own isn't very helpful.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Congrats to the 1Password team! I've been using the beta for a while now on Pop_OS! and it has been getting better with each update.

I personally don't mind that it uses Electron. The app feels snappy to me and it looks like their engineers are making efforts to optimize the experience.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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post #101

PSA: Note that AgileBits intentionally hides the standalone license option and pushes subscription as the only visible scheme to get the application. This is a long standing dark pattern, and though the support staff will admit on their forums or here that the standalone license does exist, you wouldn't be able to find it without some special incantations on the forums. They will keep reiterating that it's for your o…

I started using 1Password a long time ago (~10 years) when the only option was the standalone license option. It is a lifetime license for about the cost of ~2 years of subscription.

They still sell and "support" this standalone product. But I use the word "support" in quotes because the standalone license doesn't offer all the features of the subscription product. I resisted switching to the subscription product for many years, but eventually there were many features that were only offered on subscription accounts and I caved and made the switch.

So I just wanted to warn other people that before you buy the Standalone option, you should know that it isn't quite the same 1Password experience as the subscription. There are quite a few significant features missing.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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post #101

PSA: Note that AgileBits intentionally hides the standalone license option and pushes subscription as the only visible scheme to get the application. This is a long standing dark pattern, and though the support staff will admit on their forums or here that the standalone license does exist, you wouldn't be able to find it without some special incantations on the forums. They will keep reiterating that it's for your o…

The sync story bothers me. In my mind, Enpass is one that does it correctly. They don't offer a sync service, instead they let you choose from a number of popular ones (OneDrive, Dropbox, iCloud, and a few others), one of which you probably already use. There's no need for yet another cloud service to solve this already solved problem.

I used the standalone option for 1Password for many years. They too allow the same thing. I would store my 1Password vault on Dropbox, which effectively handled the sync for me.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#125

Is this a subscription only feature?

According to this forum post I just found[1], they are "no longer advertising" the non-subscription mode, and they apparently will not directly answer questions about whether it's still sold: >> "We're no longer advertising standalone licenses" Does that mean "We're no longer offering standalone licenses"? > Membership [aka subscription-based] is the way forward with 1Password. It's really disappointing that their co…

We continue to sell licenses for each 1Password 7 for Mac and 1Password 7 for Windows. These licenses are available within the app when downloaded from our website. We would strongly recommend 1Password membership as that is going to provide the best experience, but if you’d prefer a license for one or both of those products they are for sale. We recommend memberships as they address a number of requests our customers had that we were unable to accommodate without connecting to a server to perform the heavy lifting, such as 2FA, sharing, etc. It also significantly simplifies the purchasing experience: a subscription includes access to the latest versions of all the 1Password apps. You can read more here: https://support.1password.com/explore/membership/ - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux

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post #27

I just use pass: https://www.passwordstore.org/

Correct. For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using pass on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software.

This is like saying that you could replicate Instagram in a single evening, allowing people to upload pictures and post them to a feed.

Sure, you could... but there is a monstrous gap between that and the real service that you are comparing it to.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#127

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Sidenote: 1password has no way of knowing if I am materially affected by a site breach, and its notifications about a site being breached annoy me

The functional uselessness of ALL site breach notifications from EVERYONE who will send them to you is something that pisses me off to no end. "Your Email was found in the data dump from the FooBarBaz.NET hack!" Okay, which site was this? Is there a password I'm supposed to change? Was it actually a password I stopped using 5 years ago, but is still floating out there somewhere? None of these questions are ever answe…

Exactly, also, many times I aliased the sign up email or otherwise made the username unique. And I already have unique password, so there just isn't anything to care about for 99% of services.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Even though we’re a Bitwarden family, I’m happy to see other password managers supporting Linux, the world needs more native Linux support in their applications! Edit: not too happy about electron, but it’s still a step in the right direction for the common folk who use Ubuntu and aren’t the most tech savvy and just don’t care

Bitwarden is also Electron, at least on MacOS. I discovered that when I wanted to mass-delete entries and Cmd-A selected a bunch of random text on screen (including the hint text in the search box...). Was able to confirm by pressing F12 which brought up the dev tools.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Linux GUI toolkits suck a lot. I was a professional Qt developer in a past life and while it stands head and shoulders above GTK, that’s really not saying much. I’ve often thought about making my own toolkit, but there’s so much that we forget about from things like focus to accessibility to text layout and rendering (much text has been rendered on why text rendering sucks). My hope is that Rust breathes…

I really think this is the single most substantial reason as to why desktop linux has sucked for so long. I was following your comment until the end - I don't have any probems with Rust but how will that help the situation?

GUI toolkits suck on all platforms.

It's just a hard problem and its a boring, loveless space to work in.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ohh exciting! I will be installing the beta right away!

Just a warning for people who don't know the grandparent is referring to the extension formerly called 1Password X (now just 1Password in the browser because AgileBits wants you to use that one) which puts ALL OF YOUR PASSWORDS into your browser's memory. The "classic" 1Password browser extension already unlocked with the desktop app and does not dump your entire vault into browser memory just to fill one password.

I think you might have a misunderstanding of how our browser extension works. Just like our desktop app, your password is only in memory if you copy it to the clipboard, fill it in the browser, or reveal it within the app. Your passwords are always stored encrypted on both the desktop app and browser extension, and we make an active effort to keep secrets out of memory. I hope this clarifies things.

- Jackson Lewis, 1Password Developer

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