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Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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post #13

There is one thing that Google+ currently lacks that both Twitter and Facebook have: Like us on Facebook! facebook.com/ProductFoo Follow us on Twitter! @ProductFoo In G+'s (hypothetical, since they haven't done it yet) case, neither the phrase nor the url are as catchy or memorable: +1 us on Google! plus.google.com/ProductFoo

I wonder if Google will buy the "plus" TLD for this.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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post #19

One of the things that is great about Twitter is that you can subscribe to someone else's posts without them having to take any action. Is something similar available on Google+? Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me? I'd appreciate any clarity on this, I think that the asymmetry and follower driven nature of Twi…

> Is something similar available on Google+?

Yes, you can add someone to your circles without them doing the same to you. There's even a default circle called "Following" for "People that you don't know but find their posts interesting" (i.e., basically the same thing as following famous people on Twitter).

> Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle?

Sort of. They can be directed at any combination of your circles, or all of them.

> I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me?

Right, you can add anyone you want to your circles, but you can't touch their circles at all. It's like Twitter in that respect.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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post #19

One of the things that is great about Twitter is that you can subscribe to someone else's posts without them having to take any action. Is something similar available on Google+? Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me? I'd appreciate any clarity on this, I think that the asymmetry and follower driven nature of Twi…

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Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

#24
post #3

I think we all need to appreciate the fact most people use Facebook and/or Twitter because they are agnostic - that is, are not tied or linked to any singular email account. I have a Gmail account - albeit "lay persons" in the tech world - use Yahoo or Hotmail, and sure, some use Gmail [shocking generalization :)]. Most, in some capacity, usually check FB and/or Twitter on their mobiles and website daily. Many do not…

Tried with this workaround: Create a circle, add a person to it, then share some content in the circle. Everyone who isn't yet member of Google+ gets an invite. Let us know if it's still working.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Google+ is reducing the amount of leverage Twitter has to monetize their service. I believe Twitter has waited too long to make money off of its platform. The only ones seem to be making money off of Twitter is the 3rd party developers that are making it easier to use the product!

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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post #3

I think we all need to appreciate the fact most people use Facebook and/or Twitter because they are agnostic - that is, are not tied or linked to any singular email account. I have a Gmail account - albeit "lay persons" in the tech world - use Yahoo or Hotmail, and sure, some use Gmail [shocking generalization :)]. Most, in some capacity, usually check FB and/or Twitter on their mobiles and website daily. Many do not…

Tried with this workaround: Create a circle, add a person to it, then share some content in the circle. Everyone who isn't yet member of Google+ gets an invite. Let us know if it's still working.

thanks - haven't got an invite yet however ? will let you know if I get one :) [otherwise won't update] thanks ;)

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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post #19

One of the things that is great about Twitter is that you can subscribe to someone else's posts without them having to take any action. Is something similar available on Google+? Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me? I'd appreciate any clarity on this, I think that the asymmetry and follower driven nature of Twi…

> Is something similar available on Google+? Yes, you can add someone to your circles without them doing the same to you. There's even a default circle called "Following" for "People that you don't know but find their posts interesting" (i.e., basically the same thing as following famous people on Twitter). > Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? Sort of. They can be directed at any combina…

> Sort of. They can be directed at any combination of your circles, or all of them.

Minor correction: there is an option to select "Public" instead of selecting 0 or more circles, which is basically Twitter.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

#29
post #19

One of the things that is great about Twitter is that you can subscribe to someone else's posts without them having to take any action. Is something similar available on Google+? Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? I can't just add myself to someone I like's circle, right? They have to add me? I'd appreciate any clarity on this, I think that the asymmetry and follower driven nature of Twi…

> Is something similar available on Google+? Yes, you can add someone to your circles without them doing the same to you. There's even a default circle called "Following" for "People that you don't know but find their posts interesting" (i.e., basically the same thing as following famous people on Twitter). > Are your posts required to be directed toward a specific circle? Sort of. They can be directed at any combina…

The problem with adding someone to my circles is that the relationship is backwards from what it needs to be for some use cases.

Suppose that I want to tell a bad joke every day. (Not an entirely hypothetical example - I did this on Buzz for a couple of months at one point.) I know that a lot of my friends like my jokes. Some of them don't. I don't want to push jokes to people who won't like them.

What's my solution with Google+? Here are some options:

- I can make my jokes public, pushing them on people who I know don't want them. This gets in the way of other relationships that I want to keep track of.

- I can create a circle for people who I think like my bad jokes, start adding them, and send them jokes. But now people have to ask to get my jokes (which they probably don't know that they can) and have to ask me to get off that joke list.

- I can create a new account just for my bad jokes. Now I have to be managing multiple accounts, which gets to be a real PITA.

Here is what I want instead. I want to have private circles and public circles. Private circles, I manage. Public circles I let the world know about, and they manage. When I create content I just send it to the appropriate circles. Anyone who wants can see me, see my public circles, and can see what I put there. And can sign up for them.

Re: Why Twitter Should be Very Worried about Google+

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Well. I added Markus Persson (aka Notch, of Minecraft fame) to my Following circle, and... his posts are always bumped to the top of the stream because so many people comment on them.

Posts can also take up a lot of space when there are attached pictures/videos and comments.

So Twitter has these huge advantages that everything is streamlined and kept short. Google+ does not; and it's not really necessary if you don't use Google+ as Twitter. This is also something that Google can fix, so we CAN (then) use Google+ as Twitter.

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