40 cores? This thing will be dazzling.
Adding a bunch of tiny cores to an SOC is easy. What’s much harder is writing the software to make use of them.
Nah, that's pretty easy if you do anything involving video. AV1 will eat all the cores.
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#62As someone who just invested in a Mac Pro late last year, I'm a bit frustrated. I wanted years for a modular design that I could keep and upgrade over a longer time only to find out I'll be forcefully phased out within 2 years.
M1 mac pros were always going to come. Apple themselves announced that the next 2 years will be transition. I'd say if you purchased a Mac Pro, it's still the same. If you find yourself not having enough power, you bought the wrong machine to begin with (probably modern threadripper pro would be what you should have been looking for) If the computer satisfies all your performance needs, what use is it to "feel frustr…
"what use is it to "feel frustruated" over something that was expected to come"
1) The details were all speculation. 2) There was no other option if you needed more horsepower. 3)_I'm happy with the current Mac Pro, but its going to be phased out of software support before its time, just like the Motorolla.
So it's more about the software support being phased out than new hardware coming out.
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#63As someone who just invested in a Mac Pro late last year, I'm a bit frustrated. I wanted years for a modular design that I could keep and upgrade over a longer time only to find out I'll be forcefully phased out within 2 years.
They aren’t forcing you to phase out your machine. They will continue to support it.
Only for ~2 more years. I had a Motorola machine and when they switched to x86, it was useless pretty quickly, far before its time.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
There should be a cooper pipe between the CPU and cooler like this one[1]. Seriously, WTF? Where is it? 1: https://i0.wp.com/lemmymorgan.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01...
Here's an example teardown: https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/iUejB4OfKlPD4Fex.hug... The heat pipe is the part just above and to the left of the fan.
The model in the video is this one I think — https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Air+13-Inch+Retina+2...
(Video mentions 2019 model, which is a minor revision based on this)
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does he take the back cover off and complain that the air flow and cooling don’t work properly?
There should be a cooper pipe between the CPU and cooler like this one[1]. Seriously, WTF? Where is it? 1: https://i0.wp.com/lemmymorgan.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01...
In a way it's possibly more efficient without the heat pipe - the cooler is directly over the CPU in this design, and can be quite large due to the way it's packaged (though it has to be thin).
The downside is it's harder to get decent airflow over the fins. The casing is probably designed to direct the airflow, but I'd have to see all parts together to figure out how this works.
EDIT: the lower case appears to have some ducting on it, see this example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324259489798
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
M1 mac pros were always going to come. Apple themselves announced that the next 2 years will be transition. I'd say if you purchased a Mac Pro, it's still the same. If you find yourself not having enough power, you bought the wrong machine to begin with (probably modern threadripper pro would be what you should have been looking for) If the computer satisfies all your performance needs, what use is it to "feel frustr…
"what use is it to "feel frustruated" over something that was expected to come" 1) The details were all speculation. 2) There was no other option if you needed more horsepower. 3)_I'm happy with the current Mac Pro, but its going to be phased out of software support before its time, just like the Motorolla. So it's more about the software support being phased out than new hardware coming out.
1) it is not speculation that there will be an M1 Mac Pro. Apple clearly says within the next 2 years there will be no more Intel macs for sale.
If you want the software support, wait until the support dies/runs out, and then buy the newest computer at that time, when you need it.
You'll find that apple will drop support for the M1 too in the future. Its day will come when Apple decides the neural engine is too outdated or the architecture is too old and will stop support it as well. That's a fact, not speculation.
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#67It'll be interesting to see what a "big" apple silicon chip looks like. Does it still have efficiency cores? Will there be two tiers of system memory?
The source says that the new chip for the high-end Macbook Pro would have 8 performance cores and 2 efficiency ones. It's a bit surprising that they'll reduce the efficiency core count to half (although this might get offsetted by the single-core advancements in the new chip)
Re: Apple Readies MacBook Pro, MacBook Air Revamps
#68As someone who just invested in a Mac Pro late last year, I'm a bit frustrated. I wanted years for a modular design that I could keep and upgrade over a longer time only to find out I'll be forcefully phased out within 2 years.
They aren’t forcing you to phase out your machine. They will continue to support it.
At some point macOS will no longer provide an Intel version but that is likely years down the road - perhaps 2026 at the earliest? And likely much later.
And third-parties will supply upgrades as the upgradable parts are roughly standard, so the Mac Pro is likely to be a completely usable machine for nearly a decade to come.
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#69It'll be interesting to see what a "big" apple silicon chip looks like. Does it still have efficiency cores? Will there be two tiers of system memory?
MacBook Pro versions will have eight performance cores and two efficacy cores.
Mac Pros will have either 16 performance/4 efficiency, or 32 performance/8 efficiency.
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#70Tolerable build times for large Swift projects!