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Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by pjmlp »

iratewizard wrote: post #377
mastazi wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> you have misconception and what's the "correct-conception"?[1] I'm curious because I get what parent means in terms of intellectual property issues in China but I don't get what do you mean from your comment, especially the fact that you include "other party states" - is it some sort of general rule that you're hinting at? [1] funny, I just realised that there is no antonym of "misconception"

Maybe he means that China is less like a country and more like an organized crime syndicate wearing a nation's clothes?

Like US during McCarthy era.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by qart »

areoform wrote: post #290
qart wrote: post #212

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You have a completely wrong idea of the laws of orbital dynamics. If satellites don't want to keep burning tons of fuel, they will orbit the center of the earth, not its axis. The only situation where your comment could apply is if the satellite is orbiting only above the equator. All of this, completely disregarding the economics of satellite mapping, their operational limits, etc.

I believe you have an incorrect mental model of orbital mechanics. I would recommend playing with KSP to more intuitively understand the concepts, and then reading resources like, http://www.braeunig.us/space/orbmech.htm For now, here's a video that might help you get a clearer idea, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_jM_BxQGvE - as you can see there's no fuel required. It's all about the inclination of the orbit (i.e…

The video shows a polar orbit. How does this address azernik's point that "if the data exists for one place at a similar latitude, then it exists for every other place at a similar latitude"? With a polar or near-polar orbit, you'd get the densest (fewest stitches) and freshest data near the poles.

> as you can see there's no fuel required.

Like I wrote before, no fuel is required if you're orbiting the center of the earth. No one orbits the axis of the earth (other than orbiting above the equator). I was only responding to what azernik wrote.

Here's what I am saying: 1. the resolution of the images on Google Maps varies a lot from place to place. Not just Gaza, but other places too. I mentioned specific places too. Please verify that for yourself. 2. Orbital mechanics is the wrong explanation to reach for to account for the disparities.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by faizmokhtar »

Kranar wrote: post #168
djhn wrote: post #166

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That sounds like "technically correct with caveats".

So does OPs entire post. Gaza is, by all reasonable accounts, among the most densely populated areas in the world. There's no real reason to start questioning the credibility and trustworthiness of a news organization over the fact that Gaza is referred to as such, it's a very bizarre thing to fixate over.

See OPs above comment and you can see where his standpoint is so it's not that surprising.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by gokhan »

Zhenya wrote: post #396
MyKneeGrows wrote: post #378

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It's why they target news agencies such as AP. Now you can't get pictures on the ground. So we all have to rely on is low resolution maps to judge damage. "Security measures", or so they say. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Yes. Because no one there has a smart phone. Because they actually killed the journalist. /s Of the course the obvious explanation is the correct one, the building housed military targets (Hamas operations etc) and it was destroyed.

IDF couldn't provide any evidence of Hamas' existence in that building, it was all over the media yesterday.

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1394287848950427649

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by itsbits »

It can be conspiracy or may be not. For example Indian cities doesn't have clear images as US cities. Sometime back, I tried finding reason for same. Apparently, Google not just use satellite images. It gets aerial images from planes as well. Obviously, Google didn't pay for aerial images of Indian cities. This can be a reason for Israel as well.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by Badfood »

cookguyruffles wrote: post #438
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #186

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They could, but multiple governments now publicly broadcast from similar constellations, so it wouldn't have nearly as much benefit for them to do so. Modern dirt cheap receivers can pick up European, Chinese, Russian, etc. constellations for location just as well as the American one.

Always wondered about this, can overlapping systems be used simultaneously for higher reliability or precision?

Surprisingly the answer is most often no, however in poor signal areas like in a city or under canopy the answer is yes as you are more likely to get a signal from the remaining bits of sky view.

The other benefit is when doing PPP the convergence time is dramatically shorter with multi constellation.

When doing RTK most receivers will use only GPS, as it is generally the most accurate, but it can and will use GLONASS occasionally. I have never seen one use beidu or Galileo

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by user982 »

nl wrote: post #387
woodpanel wrote: post #279

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Since this question revolves around words and their effect… "most populated" > "crammed" > "jailed" > "the new warsaw ghetto" there must be a word that describes your question of why : The word you're looking for also describes what's enabling the cognitive dissonance of putting Gaza in the same category as a Singapur, a Tokio or Hong Kong without blinking: Economic powerhouses that draw talent from developing and de…

@dang there is something odd going on here. The comment I'm replying to from user woodpanel says (in part): ""most populated" > "crammed" > "jailed" > "the new warsaw ghetto"... The word you're looking for also describes what's enabling the cognitive dissonance of putting Gaza in the same category as a Singapur, a Tokio or Hong Kong without blinking... a town with an economy that only consists of NGOs, the Hamas and…

Don't look directly at the hasbara.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by flyGuyOnTheSly »

alluro2 wrote: post #358
caf wrote: post #352

Wikipedia (of course!) has a list of locations intentionally blurred on public satellite map services: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satellite_map_images_w...

That's interesting - the one in Antarctica, for example, really tickles the fantasy, doesn't it.

If they were truly hiding some secret villain's lair, why wouldn't they cover their tracks by making it look like any other expanse of white snow?

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by mvzvm »

loceng wrote: post #385
mvzvm wrote: post #367

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> Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the rest of the world from seeing what is going on. No, not cynical. I will call it for what it is - baseless conspiracy.

It's certainly not baseless - and you provide no evidence that it is baseless, instead of finding the evidence claimed for it and then somehow proving it's not credible; ironic that your response is baseless.

The burden of proof is on the accuser.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by andi999 »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #97

Not really related to the article at hand, but I've been on a bit of a Google Maps binge the past couple weeks. I learned a few interesting facts, blurry Israel being one of them. Another strange thing I found that might not be super well known (I didn't know about it) is that all GPS data in China is offset by a nonlinear psuedo-random amount. If you turn on the satellite view in Google Maps and look at various citi…

Isnt it that all google services are not available in china, so it might not be possible to use google maps inside china.
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