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Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by throwhn331 »

loceng wrote: post #385
mvzvm wrote: post #367

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> Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the rest of the world from seeing what is going on. No, not cynical. I will call it for what it is - baseless conspiracy.

It's certainly not baseless - and you provide no evidence that it is baseless, instead of finding the evidence claimed for it and then somehow proving it's not credible; ironic that your response is baseless.

The proof burden is on the person advancing the conspiracy theory, not on the person asking for proof. Since no evidence was given, it is baseless.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by mncharity »

mastazi wrote: post #308
seniorivn wrote: post #267

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only if you have misconception about what ccp and other one party states actually are

> you have misconception and what's the "correct-conception"?[1] I'm curious because I get what parent means in terms of intellectual property issues in China but I don't get what do you mean from your comment, especially the fact that you include "other party states" - is it some sort of general rule that you're hinting at? [1] funny, I just realised that there is no antonym of "misconception"

Verconception? - truth, 7 hits on google. Orthoconception? - straight, also 7 hits. Benconception? - good, 80 hits off topic. What else...?

At least in science education, misconceptions are so vastly more common than correct conceptions, that it makes sense there's a compact negative form but not a positive one. /s

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by rock_artist »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #386
jussij wrote: post #355

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Israel can get all the detailed imagery it needs by just launching a reconnaissance aircraft or drone. So on that basis I would say it only stops the Palestinians from getting imagery of the area. Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. Call me cynical, but I suspect the more important reason to keep these images blurred might be to stop the…

> Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. A high resolution image would be very useful to anyone who is planning a terror attack with suicide bombers, for example.

Just worth mentioning, street view is available and updated regularly within Israel main cities.

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Post by joering2 »

js2 wrote: post #103
squeaky-clean wrote: post #97

Not really related to the article at hand, but I've been on a bit of a Google Maps binge the past couple weeks. I learned a few interesting facts, blurry Israel being one of them. Another strange thing I found that might not be super well known (I didn't know about it) is that all GPS data in China is offset by a nonlinear psuedo-random amount. If you turn on the satellite view in Google Maps and look at various citi…

Recently, I discovered Street View sometimes captures car crashes: https://goo.gl/maps/kJdgWQUU3eUMReUE8 https://ibb.co/x18fy3s

Two years ago when I saw Google car in front of me about to pass, I sure as hell opened the window and give it a bird, Maverick style. And sure as hell some 6 months later punching the address of my encounter, there I was in my car, with blurred face showing a middle finger that was surprisingly not blurred. So I showed it to all my friends all proud and stuff. Sadly a few months later the photo was replaced by I guess another drive-by. I imagine for many reasons since they already have a car in place, I'm sure they take few takes when passing by and someone must have reported me.

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Post by sequoia »

mcguire wrote: post #373
golergka wrote: post #255

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Same reason that this conflict always gets the same optics in international media — jewish lives are worth less. At first, as you don't want to believe it, you argue, you investigate, you really try to find any sane reason that while these things are happening on ground with you and your family, everybody else still sees a different picture, and then you just come to realisation that there's no other explanation for…

Israeli lives are worth at least $400 / year each to the United States, given the $3.3B annual aid and a population of 9M. Since 2007, when the US stopped economic aid, it's been entirely military aid. ( https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/ISR ) In total, Afghanistan gets more, $4.9B, but that only comes to $129 per Afghan. (That's the "you break it, you bought it" plan, I guess.) The next highest is Jordan, $1.7B or $170…

Just to clarify: these are the neighbours that expelled all their Jews leaving them refugees in Israel and also tried to destroy the country and many of which have not stopped trying for its entire history. Getting along takes two.

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Post by eloff »

markdown wrote: post #391
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #386

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> Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. A high resolution image would be very useful to anyone who is planning a terror attack with suicide bombers, for example.

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Woah, you've gone pretty far off the deep end.

You'd do well to remember there are two sides to any conflict (as my parents drilled into us whenever my brother and I would blame each other).

In my opinion you can see Israel exercising serious restraint, evacuating people from a target first when possible, firing warning shots before the real attack. Hamas on the other hand is indiscriminately firing over 3000 rockets at Israel civilians. That's like what the Nazis did to London with their V2 rockets. Now there is a big power imbalance here, and I feel for the Palestinians, but they're hardly the good guys here. That's terrorism, plain and simple. No country would tolerate that.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Post by sequoia »

nl wrote: post #295
sequoia wrote: post #231

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Here is a single reference: https://www.middleeastobserver.org/2016/07/12/pcbs-reports-g... "Do you generally call things out as being untrustworthy for claiming that the top 5% is among the highest in a rank?" The reason I consider this claim "misleading" is that I never see the "one of the most densely populated..." phrase on stories about Paris, Kathmandu, Seoul or any of the hundreds of more densely populated are…

> If we're trading references, can you show me some where the BBC refers to Paris as "one of the most densely populated places in the world?" "Tricks from the most densely populated city... Paris is one of the most densely populated city in the EU with relatively few green spaces." https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p06sbtzz/tricks-from-the-most... > The reason I consider this claim "misleading" is that I never see the "…

From your examples only Bangladesh is referred to by reporters (not as a quotation) as one of the most densely populated in this case “countries” (which is much easier to count than “places”) in the world. (“Most densely populated places” means something different as of course cities are “places” and the definition of place is highly debatable as this thread shows.)

Kudos & good examples. I still think this meme is attached particularly to Gaza but clearly it’s not exclusive.

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Post by sudosysgen »

slg wrote: post #389
sudosysgen wrote: post #374

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I don't understand your argument. Jewish Palestinians plus non-Jewish Palestinians do make up 100% of Palestinians.

Oops, I made that more confusing by trying to note everyone was a Palestinian when the place was called Palestine. By "non-Jewish Palestinians" I was trying to refer to the predominately Muslim and predominately Arab group that we now just call Palestinians. There was and still is a population of Christians in the area and there presumably was some larger population of foreigners in the area when it was under foreign…

Everyone is still a Palestinian nowadays though.

The reason why there are less Christian Palestinians is because a lot of them were deported or fled shortly after the Nakba.

A lot of them would come back if Palestine was restored, but most of them are legally prevented by Israel from coming back.

Not even Hamas or Hezbollah wants Palestine to be a single religion or single ethnicity state, so I don't really understand what you were trying to convey.

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Post by MichaelMoser123 »

rock_artist wrote: post #413
MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #386

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> Now considering the fact Palestine only has rockets and not missiles, I doubt that imagery is of much value to them. A high resolution image would be very useful to anyone who is planning a terror attack with suicide bombers, for example.

Just worth mentioning, street view is available and updated regularly within Israel main cities.

not without controversy, apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View_in_Israel#I... "There was much controversy surrounding bringing Street View to Israel. The main one was the fear that terrorists could use the feature to plan attacks. Palestinian militants have previously admitted to using Google Maps to help plan attacks."
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