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Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #54

Organizations/NGOs heavily rely on satellite imagery (i) to assist in delivering many humanitarian efforts. It would seem useful for the UN to strongly prohibit the diminishing of such capability. (i) www.hotosm.org

The UN does not have this authority.

Does the UN have any authority?

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #41

Im kind of confused - they're saying its a problem for reporters and people trying to investigate, but also that other providers provide high resolution imagery. I feel like both those things can't be true. How can it be a problem if you can just get the needed images from non usa companies?

Up-to-date high resolution imagery is quite expensive. Most of Google maps imagery is generated from an older database of images. Businesses like Maxar (formerly Digital Globe) that provide Earth imagery will sell a database of old out-of-date imagery for much cheaper. But more recent imagery is much more expensive because it is much more valuable. These companies will often provide free images that are up to date to help with disaster and recovery efforts but that doesn't mean it has been put in to Google maps yet, a lot of it just still an old database of imagery.

In Summary:

- Old out-of-date imagery: $

- Newer up-to-date imagery that has been captured: $$$

- Tasking a spacecraft to request image of a specific area: $$$$

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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I zoomed into random areas like Chekka, Lebanon and Kumasi, Ghana. I hadn't heard of these places before today, but they looked big enough on Google Maps. Zooming in, the mosaics appeared as if they were shot years apart, with noticeably different resolutions. Could Gaza just be one such scan, rather than something sinister?

> "Considering the importance of current events, I see no reason why commercial imagery of this area should continue to be deliberately degraded,"

Yeah, no. That does not answer the question right before it. What's with these sinister edits?

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #4

tldr: Israeli-US agreement limited resolution until July 2020, and Gmaps hasn't gotten around to updating the imagery since.

Perhaps pedantic, but it wasn't an agreement per se, just a regular domestic U.S. law, although Israel did indeed lobby in favor of the law. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyl%E2%80%93Bingaman_Amendment

I wouldn't mind other countries paying us bribes (lobbying) if that money went to the taxpayer, but instead it goes to the politician that can brainwash us with that same money.

Side note, does anyone have any great works of political theory that talks about how to deal with bribery?

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #5

Is it possible to have real-time live-feed of the entire planet? If cost isn't an issue, would something like that be possible?

The short answer is no. High-resolution imagery comes from low-orbit satellites, which make a complete orbit about every two hours, and image long, narrow strips with each pass, taking days to image the whole planet. There are many of these satellites: commercial, non-military (publicly-accessible) governmental, and governmental (secret), of varying resolutions. These are also supplemented by aerial (plane) imagery.…

It seems like the answer is actually yes, then? Seems like it would be expensive but that is no issue with this thought experiment. OP didn't require High-res or directly-overhead, some caveats you added which constrain the problem more. But either way, it totally seems possible.

Heck, put up 100,000 satellites and use the same kind of tech Apple/Google/MS use in their 3D views of cities (it, they do take airplane and satellite photos at various angles, and use software to stitch together the separate pieces).

Seems totally possible to meet OP's request given money not being an issue.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #5

Is it possible to have real-time live-feed of the entire planet? If cost isn't an issue, would something like that be possible?

The short answer is no. High-resolution imagery comes from low-orbit satellites, which make a complete orbit about every two hours, and image long, narrow strips with each pass, taking days to image the whole planet. There are many of these satellites: commercial, non-military (publicly-accessible) governmental, and governmental (secret), of varying resolutions. These are also supplemented by aerial (plane) imagery.…

Starlink is seeking approval for tens of thousands of low-earth-orbit satellites. Each one will have high-bandwidth network connections. It doesn't seem intractable to put cameras on each one and stitch their feeds together for imagery that's maximum 30 minutes old for any arbitrary point on the globe.

And the market for near-real-time imagery might be even larger than the market for internet connectivity.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #41

Im kind of confused - they're saying its a problem for reporters and people trying to investigate, but also that other providers provide high resolution imagery. I feel like both those things can't be true. How can it be a problem if you can just get the needed images from non usa companies?

There are a lot of tools built for Google Maps/Earth, and it is far more accessible. For a reporter/investigator with an unlimited budget, sure, but for most of the real world, if it isn't in Google maps it is essentially out of reach.

Re: Why is the Gaza Strip blurry on Google Maps?

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should they have negotiated with the Palestinian Authority, which only partially controls the West Bank, or with Hamas, which took control of Gaza and proceeded to murder leaders from other Palestinian political parties? It is kind of hard to know who the "official" representatives of the Palestinian people actually are due to the failure to establish a functional Palestinian state or government.

> Hamas, which took control of Gaza and proceeded to murder leaders from other Palestinian political parties You appear to be misinformed. Hamas won regular elections (considered such by international observers, who also reported obstructions from Israel ). Hamas then kept respecting the ongoing ceasefire with Israel and started softening its stance towards it, offering a permanent ceasefire, while on the other side…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Hamas_political_violence_...
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