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Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

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Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

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My Mom is already on it. The first thing I thought when I saw hangouts is "My Mom will be on this a lot chatting with relatives." She wanted the group video chat on Skype but it only works if everyone else pays for it. No barrier with Google+

Yes, i wish it was Google who bought Skype. They could just integrate the service with Skype, and get every user on Skype automatically to Google+.

Immediately, they will have more than 500M+ users from Skype only, not to mention Gmail.

Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

#42
I've always thought that social networks like Friendster, MySpace and Facebook follow a clear and old path laid out by the fashion industry.

Fashionable things are almost by definition meant not to last.

The early adopters will often take up something, be it Facebook, or new clothes, or a new band, largely because it is not (yet) popular. Or because it is exclusive.

Remember when Facebook was for just for ivy leaguers?

I remember when years ago Joel (of Joel on software) wanted a Facebook that really is strictly restricted to college students. Remember that?

The late adopters will often follow the early adopters for no other reason then because the new thing is cool.

And this pattern guarantees there's always something new and nothing is cool for too long.

Now there's been a lot of talk about lock-in, social graphs, walled gardens, etc.. all reason why no one can do to Facebook what Facebook did to MySpace.

But.... I have my doubts. Google+ vs Facebook, I'm going to get some popcorn and enjoy watching this.

Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

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I think he's trying to make his wife what she isn't: an early adopter. The mainstream wants something that their other mainstream (not early adopter) friends are also using. The early adopters are revolutionaries. The mainstream likes status quo. But that's true about every single technology. Facebook has gone through this, too. Twitter, as well. Would your mom or wife use Twitter in the first year after Twitter laun…

You raise some good points about Facebook and Twitter going through the same cycle. I can't think of a service that people adopted immediatelyl; strangely, I can think of a few devices. it's just a matter of ... get[ting] everyone to hear about it. That's very true as well, but Google+ has something Facebook (and Twitter et al) didn't -- google.com integration and exposure [1]. [1] http://www.allfacebook.com/the-one-…

Yes, deep integration with all other Google-services gives it advantage over others. Gmail, Calendar with social.. sounds awesome (Really like hangouts)

Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

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post #41

My Mom is already on it. The first thing I thought when I saw hangouts is "My Mom will be on this a lot chatting with relatives." She wanted the group video chat on Skype but it only works if everyone else pays for it. No barrier with Google+

Yes, i wish it was Google who bought Skype. They could just integrate the service with Skype, and get every user on Skype automatically to Google+. Immediately, they will have more than 500M+ users from Skype only, not to mention Gmail.

Last time Google used users of one service to kick-start another it turned out really well :-)

Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

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post #41

My Mom is already on it. The first thing I thought when I saw hangouts is "My Mom will be on this a lot chatting with relatives." She wanted the group video chat on Skype but it only works if everyone else pays for it. No barrier with Google+

Yes, i wish it was Google who bought Skype. They could just integrate the service with Skype, and get every user on Skype automatically to Google+. Immediately, they will have more than 500M+ users from Skype only, not to mention Gmail.

Read http://www.stevenlevy.com/index.php/05/10/why-google-does-no... to find out why it was that Google didn't buy Skype.

Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that your data in Google+ will be (at least slightly) less locked-in than data you add to Facebook: http://www.google.com/takeout

I agree with you that Google is pretty good about letting you export data. I just exported my Picasa pictures a few days ago. I use POP3 to keep a local copy of GMail. I also periodically take a local snapshot of my Blogger based blog.markwatson.com. All that said, I also used Facebook's export facility several weeks ago. It worked fine, but then I realized that I didn't care about backing up my Facebook data and del…

Of my friends, the list of people who have been somehow burned by misconfigured or misunderstood Facebook privacy settings is growing steadily.

In general, I'm bullish on G+. A reviewer linked here made the best viral case for it I've seen so far: He hadn't made a profile or put any information out there on G+ but his friends with Gmail accounts added him to their various circle's and he, even having not yet chosen to participate in G+, got a big red notification stream in the top-right corner of every other Google service he uses.

Re: Why yo momma won’t use Google+ (and why that thrills me to no end)

#50
While I haven't used it yet - my biggest difficutly with the service seems to be that Circles actually act as "silos" and are mutually exclusive.

That is, you cannot add "Robert Scoble" to different circles such as "friends" and "Tech feed" - you must choose EITHER "friends" OR "tech feed".

This draws difficulties [and again I haven't used it so please someone clarify if I'm wrong] - if I have a friend who is both a work college and a friend ? Where do I place this user ? I'm assuming "lay tech" people will want the ability to overlap contacts ?

Edit: great thanks for clarifying! :)

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