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China increases spending 500% to influence America

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Re: China increases spending 500% to influence America

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No no no. Fauci is working with Gates, the Reptilians, and the child molesting secret society pizza eaters to implant micro chips in people to convince them that birds are real.

Is that a new Netflix original series?

I think if done well, that could be awesome

Re: China increases spending 500% to influence America

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Not sure how anyone is surprised by this.

It's been proven that Russian influence peddling is well funded and active, even if its effect is hotly debated since Republicans pretend its negligible, while Democrats act like it's the only reason Trump won 2016.

It was just a matter of time before other foreign actors saw what's possible and decided it's a better use of their funds to influence American politics rather than expensive arms races or insurgencies.

Why spend a few billion on nuclear programs and arming militias when you can instead spend a few million on troll farms and push your agenda forward more effectively?

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Chinese propaganda is just so... Tone deaf. Give me a couple million dollars and a couple interns and I'm pretty sure I could do better than any of its existing organs. This isn't a particularly high bar: you could probably do better just by doing nothing.

Indian propaganda is similar (I'm more familiar with it, being Indian).

You can see the parallels in how both talk about their hated minorities (Uyghurs and Kashmiris/Muslims)

My favorite was a recent Twitter account with a teenage profile picture, she/they pronouns, BLM, proud feminist, and TRUMP2020 all in the bio, and all it did was claim that Uyghurs are really being educated and that the decline in birth rates among Uyghurs by ~50% in one year, according to Chinese gov't statistics is just because they are being liberated, and basically all sorts of other genocide denial.

Re: China increases spending 500% to influence America

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Not sure how anyone is surprised by this. It's been proven that Russian influence peddling is well funded and active, even if its effect is hotly debated since Republicans pretend its negligible, while Democrats act like it's the only reason Trump won 2016. It was just a matter of time before other foreign actors saw what's possible and decided it's a better use of their funds to influence American politics rather th…

It's been going on for a long time however - 1996 is a good example of the CCP influencing American politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_fi...

Re: China increases spending 500% to influence America

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Trump starts "trade war" with China. Chinese virus matching weapons project funded by Fauci himself hits America. Only cure for said virus is destoy USA economy and all its freedoms. Hmmm

No no no. Fauci is working with Gates, the Reptilians, and the child molesting secret society pizza eaters to implant micro chips in people to convince them that birds are real.

> to convince them that birds are real

Wait, what's that referring to, is this a conspiracy theory that I haven't encountered yet?!?

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Chinese propaganda is just so... Tone deaf. Give me a couple million dollars and a couple interns and I'm pretty sure I could do better than any of its existing organs. This isn't a particularly high bar: you could probably do better just by doing nothing.

What do you think are examples of Chinese propaganda? If it was good, I don't think we'd be able to tell.

Re: China increases spending 500% to influence America

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Well it appears to be working, so they'd be foolish to not invest more.

We've currently got a major political divide over whether a pandemic was something to take seriously, expressed as a rejection of a common sense mitigation for respiratory virii. The "stop the steal" big lie is continuing ("AZ voter database has been erased"), with the Republican leadership continuing to fall in line behind dear leader.

FOX news was apparently not fake enough, so now we've got Newsmax and OAN. I even just got an unsolicited fake newspaper in the mail, which starts off with "Ninety percent of news outlets in the US are controlled by just six corporations", but then launches right into the bog standard red team myopic tropes.

Take a look at the recent gasoline shortages caused by the media itself spreading fear that there won't be enough. It's an increasingly postmodern world, where the media itself is creating reality. Of course every foreign country wants to buy into that!

Just for reference here, I'm a libertarian, not some Democratic partisan. I'm very concerned with mass media being pwnt by big business, but at least they represent the stabilizing interests of the US establishment rather than whomever is tearing us apart. The enemy of my enemy is not inherently my friend.

I don't have any simple answer that squares with our society's recognition of the natural right of free speech, but we are indeed staring down a very serious problem.

Re: China increases spending 500% to influence America

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Chinese propaganda is just so... Tone deaf. Give me a couple million dollars and a couple interns and I'm pretty sure I could do better than any of its existing organs. This isn't a particularly high bar: you could probably do better just by doing nothing.

Indian propaganda is similar (I'm more familiar with it, being Indian). You can see the parallels in how both talk about their hated minorities (Uyghurs and Kashmiris/Muslims) My favorite was a recent Twitter account with a teenage profile picture, she/they pronouns, BLM, proud feminist, and TRUMP2020 all in the bio, and all it did was claim that Uyghurs are really being educated and that the decline in birth rates a…

Do you happen to remember a Twitter handle? I bet one could use a single one of them to discover a whole network of these.
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