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Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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I'm sold on Google Chrome, but it's frustrating that some sites aren't available on Chrome and I'm forced to used Firefox and Safari from time to time. Does that qualify me as a user of all three, thereby inflating the statistics?

What sites aren't available on Google Chrome?

Yeah, occasionally educational software (like taking a test online or something) will render incorrectly in Chrome. I don't know why this is, but some old web apps use hacks that are not standards compliant.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

#13

I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

My understanding is that the money that Google forks over to Mozilla is simply to keep Google as the browser's default search engine, not to sustain Firefox as a competing browser. If Google ceased that "funding", I'm sure some other search engine would step up to the plate.

(Note: I've got no sources for this; just a cursory understanding.)

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

I know a lot of people in the Green Party here in Germany who deliberately use Firefox because they deem it to be the most politically correct browser. My impression is that a lot of them neither realize that Firefox is indeed primarily sponsored by Google (which they consider evil), nor that Chrome/Chromium is open source, just as Firefox. They prefer Firefox for touchy-feely, not technical reasons.

So there's a market niche for a browser which comes from a sort-of neutral entity, and I think Google recognizes that and that's why they continue to pour money into Mozilla. Mozilla looks like a neutral entity, dedicated to the good, while in fact it's almost a wholly-owned subsidiary of Google.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sites aren't available on Google Chrome?

Just the ones that you rarely have to deal with, but you do have to deal with. Like your insurer's site, your bank's, if you're in college and you have to take tests online, that too. Bank sites are just terrible in general. Why is my least secure password always on a bank site? Shouldn't they have the highest requirements as far as security goes?

Is is possible to spoof the user agent and fool the server into thinking you user Firefox?

Some of those places just hard-code the possible choices of compatible browsers, and that list is 5+ years old. Once in a while I still see sites that advertise their support for Netscape.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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Isn't the bigger news here that IE has dropped below 50% market share (dramatically) for the first time in over a decade? It's dominance is kind of over.

The IE team need to implement what Firefox & Chrome (to some effects) does. Firefox & Chrome constantly bug you when theres new update - if you keep ignoring Firefox's it starts asking you to update before it even opens.

Why is this important?

Well a lot of people still use IE6 & have finally upgraded to IE7 however, we're on IE9 now with IE10 in test drive mode. These users aren't tech savvy individuals etc who think to 'upgrade' to the latest version, so when they hear about Firefox/Chrome etc - they compare it to their current browser IE6/7 etc and decide that IE sucks so they switch over despite the fact that IE hs considerably improved recently.

Disclosure: I'm a Firefox User.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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Isn't the bigger news here that IE has dropped below 50% market share (dramatically) for the first time in over a decade? It's dominance is kind of over.

sigh - the end users of the application I'm working on use 70%-90% IE depending on the platform. I wish this would change, but I doubt it as IE still is a major player in the enterprise market.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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I don't understand Google's game here. I thought Mozilla was being showered with cash from Google? If Google is now betting on Chrome, are they going to continue supporting Mozilla? Mozilla is a pretty small-budgeted non-profit and I think they rely heavily on Google's support.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Google would rather prop up Mozilla (all the while making money--it's a split of AdWords money IIRC) than allow Microsoft to gain in search and/or browser market share.

Re: Google Chrome has 20% global market share

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So the real question is: What did Chrome do differently than Firefox to gain market share that fast?

It's fast. It's fast. It's fast. Oh, and it pop-up blocks, adblocks, and flashblocks.

Periodically I'll get curious about seeing something in Firefox, but before it can load I'll get so bored I kill the process.
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