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Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by tomxor »

postalrat wrote: post #43
tomxor wrote: post #18

> and starts mirroring me, so as i'm coming down it's coming up... It's mimicking your moves?... yeah it was aware we were there... "he says it was about the size of his f18 with no markings"... it gets right in front of me and it just disappears. I keep having to check it's not April fools. Hard to suspect this is not an optical phenomena, I'm sure people found ships that appeared to hover way above the horizon simi…

So you are saying an optical illusion showed up on radar and infrared cameras and appeared similar from the vantage points of two jet fighters, one of them descending to get a closer look.

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Post by StrictDabbler »

etrabroline wrote: post #6

Any report that cites the navy videos from last year is not going to be very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA Videos of blurry splotches and eye witness testimony that repeats the word "technology" over and over to imply that unlike the last 6, _this_ blurry splotch is an alien spacecraft is really just annoying at this point. EDIT: Hey judge2020 did you watch Dr Mason's analysis I linked abov…

Video of every object on Earth has been getting better.

People with cellphones have massively multi-megapixel cameras with jitter reduction.

When a meteorite lands in Russia a hundred dashcams record it from multiple angles. Beautiful video.

But UFOs? Still just camera splotches that human beings tell stories about in absurd detail.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by egfx »

tomxor wrote: post #40
maybelsyrup wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could be right of course, but how then are we explaining the appearance of these things on several different sensor platforms, all allegedly very sophisticated? Presumably the people who design these radar systems try and make them account for air density etc. I mean, look, military contractors aren't always the savviest geniuses (see e.g. the F-35 program for hilariously inept and expensive examples), but differ…

> how then are we explaining the appearance of these things on several different sensor platforms That would be trickier to explain, but we should be careful with the story telling here, they report instances of many visual anomalies, and slotted in only one story where there was a ground radar anomaly preceding the visual one that did not match exactly, i.e correlation with very low sample size is pretty meaningless…

I think it’s important to note that advances in detection tech have made it possible to detect “unreal objects”. I was parsing through this book and one of the most recent advances is the ability to detect holograms.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Advances_in_Radar_Techn...

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by Brian_K_White »

spenvo wrote: post #2

This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

You can't have multiple forms of advanced military targeting and recording and corroboration and high degrees of trust in the chain of possession and the observers themselves etc, any place other than where all that stuff is operating and operating in that heightened state like a training exercise or any other actual operation.

When was the last time the Navy was flying a bunch of fighter jets with all their hottest weapons and targetting tech active over your house?

We do have lot's of what IS "any place other", which is randos cell phone an dash cam footage. We quite rightly dismiss most of it, but it exists,ans it's all that can possibly exist, and so there is no discrepency to find "interesting".

I also don't find it remarkable at all that Russia and China aren't publicizing their own "nutcase" stories any more than we ever did, especially considering their pilots are pprobably even less likely to report anything even slightly odd that will end their careers.

It's not interesting at all.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by remir »

tomxor wrote: post #18

> and starts mirroring me, so as i'm coming down it's coming up... It's mimicking your moves?... yeah it was aware we were there... "he says it was about the size of his f18 with no markings"... it gets right in front of me and it just disappears. I keep having to check it's not April fools. Hard to suspect this is not an optical phenomena, I'm sure people found ships that appeared to hover way above the horizon simi…

I don't see how that video was silly. They observed something, the equipment and radar picked it and it affected water also.

The other pilot in the 60 Minutes video mentioned how they're seeing stuff like that almost every day. Whatever it is should be investigated, even if it's just a mere optical illusion.

What we should seek is understanding.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by trts »

DonnyV wrote: post #49

Looks like the military industrial complex is trying to convince the public that the Space Force is needed. I don't even believe they're foreign UFO's. The US is probably making up these videos themselves. Thats why no one is freaking out about this. No one believes the Pentagons BS anymore.

Some of these declassified videos are almost 20 years old (i.e. much older than Space Force) and the descriptions across various personnel are congruent; after years of corroborations nobody has betrayed evidence of some kind of conspiracy or hoax.

There are people very much freaking out about this stuff. It's a fun subject to discuss and if you do so, you will invariably encounter people who are totally unwilling to grapple with the implications.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by dogma1138 »

MikeDelta wrote: post #41
dogma1138 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aliens were far more in in the 80’s and 90’s than they are today especially as far as the UFOs, abductions and other more fear inducing stuff goes...

When the X-files stopped, so did the aliens it seems.

X-Files was just Cold War paranoia without the Russians.

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Post by krapp »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #48
spenvo wrote: post #2

This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the increased political instability across the US and other countries. A certain subset of the population is prone to conspiratorial thinking. What better way is there to distract those people from political issues? This is kind of backed up by the fact that the countries that are releasing the most UFO stuff are the ones experiencing the largest spike in instability.

I don't think anyone is distracted by this to the exclusion of all other considerations, certainly not of political issues. Even conspiracy theorists are capable of holding more than one thought in their head at a time.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by Dysseus »

ping_pong wrote: post #26
graderjs wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly that's just sampling bias. The current high profile crop are only from Navy pilots. But there's lots of data of unexplained things happening over other areas (Phoenix lights, Belgium wave, Mexico City UFOs). The difference now is that instead of random civilians, or other country militaries, saying they saw it and being ignored by the media mostly, the US armed services are pushing the story out there. None…

The Phoenix lights were easily explained by flares that disappeared behind mountains.

Most of the UFO sightings occurred around 8:15-9:00 PM, while the flairs were known to be ignited around 10:00 - 10:30 PM. Really bizarre fact about the Phoenix lights, the Governor of Arizona at that time has admitted he saw the UFO (UAP - whatever) [0].

[0] https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Generals-Pilots-Government-Offic...

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