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Re: Fish shell

#11

Post by e3bc54b2 »

Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell".

Now that's out of my system, fish is fantastic and made me realise importance of sensible defaults. I tried zsh but configuration took longer than I would have liked, and oh-my-zsh is too bloated to start instantly.

Compared to that, I have practically 0 modifications in my Fish config, apart from few aliases. I don't use fish for more than one-liners, and I never intend to. It is a very nice very fast and very lightweight way to interact with my system, which I believe was the original point of Shells in general.

Either way, glad to see it on frontpage.

Re: Fish shell

#12

Post by dividedbyzero »

mehdix wrote: post #3

I did myself a favour, and instead of learning a new shell read through grymoire's POSIX shell tutorial: https://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html .

I'm a fish user for over 10 years now; for me a big part of the appeal of fish was (and still is) that I could get a much better quality of life without having to train myself to wizard-level with the less ergonomic but ubiquitous bash. I'm sure any black belt bash wizard will leave me in the dust on every metric, but that's fine, I don't need my shell environment to be super optimized for maximum effectiveness, it just has to be good enough to do my work and get out of my way. Fish does that very well for me.

Re: Fish shell

#13

Post by t3chguy »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #11

Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Now that's out of my system, fish is fantastic and made me realise importance of sensible defaults. I tried zsh but configuration took longer than I would have liked, and oh-my-zsh is too bloated to start instantly. Compared to that, I have practically 0 modifications in my Fish config, apart from few aliases. I don't use fish for mo…

I could not agree more, I'm sure zsh can do everything fish can and a lot more, but getting it to that stage would take me more time than I'll spend interacting with fish for the next few months

Re: Fish shell

#14

Post by dividedbyzero »

hak8or wrote: post #10

I switched all my home machines' shell to fish, and my work computer also to fish, and it has been an amazing productivity boost for myself. The extremely ergonomic way it represents history (old commands) is what does it for me. If I need to script something, I always do it in bash (which is easy to transition to from bash). I don't use the fish language for any scripting because of incompatability, but as a command…

> I always do it in bash (which is easy to transition to from bash)

Did you mean dash?

Re: Fish shell

#15

Post by cassepipe »

Anyone using fish in Vim mode? Does it work well?

Last time I tried I had not such a good time. Would love to see a tutorial on how to use it efficiently.

Re: Fish shell

#16

Post by ddek »

So the massive drawback of fish is it's incompatible with bash (and other shells people use). If you're in fish, this is easily remedied because almost every machine has bash too. However, you can't expect another machine to have fish.

However, I just really like fish. I also live out of my own shell, and I don't spend much of my life remote-ing into other machines. When I do, my mind flips into bash just as easily as I flit from TypeScript to C#. To me, this is largely a non-issue, aside from when I need to work out how to set the `$SHELL` variable for a program that expects bash.

Re: Fish shell

#17

Post by s_dev »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #11

Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Now that's out of my system, fish is fantastic and made me realise importance of sensible defaults. I tried zsh but configuration took longer than I would have liked, and oh-my-zsh is too bloated to start instantly. Compared to that, I have practically 0 modifications in my Fish config, apart from few aliases. I don't use fish for mo…

> Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell".

Isn't this a common trope with software e.g. "WINE is not an emulator" or people saying "ATM Machine".

Re: Fish shell

#19

Post by cnity »

s_dev wrote: post #17
e3bc54b2 wrote: post #11

Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Now that's out of my system, fish is fantastic and made me realise importance of sensible defaults. I tried zsh but configuration took longer than I would have liked, and oh-my-zsh is too bloated to start instantly. Compared to that, I have practically 0 modifications in my Fish config, apart from few aliases. I don't use fish for mo…

> Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Isn't this a common trope with software e.g. "WINE is not an emulator" or people saying "ATM Machine".

Your first example is a recursive acronym (actually a backronym in this case), and is deliberate. That's the trope. Redundancy is usually just incorrect but common use of natural language.

Edit: I'm wrong about WINE being a backronym, but it is a recursive acronym.

Re: Fish shell

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Post by toxik »

s_dev wrote: post #17
e3bc54b2 wrote: post #11

Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Now that's out of my system, fish is fantastic and made me realise importance of sensible defaults. I tried zsh but configuration took longer than I would have liked, and oh-my-zsh is too bloated to start instantly. Compared to that, I have practically 0 modifications in my Fish config, apart from few aliases. I don't use fish for mo…

> Nit: Fish Shell is a bit redundant, as Fish stands for "Friendly Interactive Shell". Isn't this a common trope with software e.g. "WINE is not an emulator" or people saying "ATM Machine".

RAM memory

DVD disc

LCD display

We like our nouns to be general, and rather turn the acronym into an adjective. It makes good sense too: PROM memory, BluRay disc, OLED display show their connections

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