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How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

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Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

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Launching apps takes ages on M1 mini. Reminded me of the good Windows Phone times.

Strange. With the exception of electron apps (which are slow everywhere), I've found my M1 mini to be extremely responsive. Much moreso than my 16" mpb.

Cold start of Electron, MS office, Affinity (all ARM versions) takes me north of 15".

8GB M1 Mini, so maybe that makes the situation worse.

Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

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post #3

I'm still assuming it's faster due to unified memory architecture, latest generation lithography and less on tailored behavior for their OS. An AMD/Intel using same soldered RAM next to CPU and same process node would give Apple a run for its money. Still, the optimizations on OS side are interesting here.

As far as I understand, it has a lot to do with the actual design of the processor[1], and not so much to do with the on-chip memory or the software integration.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25257932

Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

#14

Launching apps takes ages on M1 mini. Reminded me of the good Windows Phone times.

Launching apps is lighting fast on M1 mini, and much faster than on Intel that it's not even funny.

Perhaps you have in mind some specific problematic app?

Or you include Intel apps that are translated to ARM on the fly on their first launch?

Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

#16

Launching apps takes ages on M1 mini. Reminded me of the good Windows Phone times.

That's a bit disingenuous to compare blazingly fast M1 to Windows Phones. What are you launching?

It's been known M1 is super fast launching apps compared to Intel macbooks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKRDlkyILNY

There's tons of video comparisons on YouTube.

Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

#17

This is a pretty smart strategy. I'd say the majority of the time when something is slow on my machine, it's because there's a resource intensive background process (that I don't really need to complete quickly) eating up all my system resources. It seems like the same strategy would also make sense on Intel processors, although it probably requires at least 4 cores to make sense?

You can do it on one processor with a process/thread scheduler. This is what makes multitasking possible in general.

Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

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This certainly makes a lot of sense, and it's a brilliant strategy to improve overall performance. But it doesn't account for the full picture either. My M1 Macbook Pro feels about as responsive as my desktop system with an AMD Ryzen 3900X, which is impressive to say the least. It doesn't quite have the raw computing power of the 3900X, but given that it's a portable device that's something else.

Re: How M1 Macs feel faster than Intel models: it’s about QoS

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post #3

I'm still assuming it's faster due to unified memory architecture, latest generation lithography and less on tailored behavior for their OS. An AMD/Intel using same soldered RAM next to CPU and same process node would give Apple a run for its money. Still, the optimizations on OS side are interesting here.

I thought the "unified memory" meme had been debunked multiple times here.
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