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How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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Re: How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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Finally, a proper look at the cost in most respects of the real cost of a 'sustainable' technology. We need more of these but no one will pay nor pay attention.

Unfortunately though, sail driven ships are kind of useless for the efficient movement of cargo. Masts are required and take away stowage space and, more importantly, make efficient cargo loading/unloading impossible. Read the book "The Box" to understand the changes brought about in cargo shipping over the last century.

Re: How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP1f3Df6SXE Maybe this kind of lifestyle appeals to enthusiasts, but I can't see modern unions allowing some of the dangerous work out on the sails.

aargh - this is a step in the expansion of humanity on a planet divided by vast oceans, a way of life, adventure and the actual elements of air, water and sun..

a union rule book is .. what? boring!

Re: How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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Finally, a proper look at the cost in most respects of the real cost of a 'sustainable' technology. We need more of these but no one will pay nor pay attention. Unfortunately though, sail driven ships are kind of useless for the efficient movement of cargo. Masts are required and take away stowage space and, more importantly, make efficient cargo loading/unloading impossible. Read the book "The Box" to understand the…

Tanker boats could probably use sails without loading and unloading getting in the way. I would imagine it's just hoses and pumps to get the liquid out.

Re: How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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Finally, a proper look at the cost in most respects of the real cost of a 'sustainable' technology. We need more of these but no one will pay nor pay attention. Unfortunately though, sail driven ships are kind of useless for the efficient movement of cargo. Masts are required and take away stowage space and, more importantly, make efficient cargo loading/unloading impossible. Read the book "The Box" to understand the…

Instead of sails we could try other methods, like kites, or that weird turning-metal column effect. To name two serious proposals I've seen

Re: How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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post #6

Finally, a proper look at the cost in most respects of the real cost of a 'sustainable' technology. We need more of these but no one will pay nor pay attention. Unfortunately though, sail driven ships are kind of useless for the efficient movement of cargo. Masts are required and take away stowage space and, more importantly, make efficient cargo loading/unloading impossible. Read the book "The Box" to understand the…

Tanker boats could probably use sails without loading and unloading getting in the way. I would imagine it's just hoses and pumps to get the liquid out.

Exactly, and these are precisely the vessels that can most handle slower transfer speeds - as you just have more sailboats to make up for slower speeds/smaller sizes. All that matters is how many arrive each day, as the cargo is fungible.

In fact, doing such would provide a buffer that could help prevent supply shocks.

Re: How to design a sailing ship for the 21st century?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP1f3Df6SXE Maybe this kind of lifestyle appeals to enthusiasts, but I can't see modern unions allowing some of the dangerous work out on the sails.

I see no reason why most of the sail work couldn't be automated and motorized.
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