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Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by phyalow »

judge2020 wrote: post #8
etrabroline wrote: post #6

Any report that cites the navy videos from last year is not going to be very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA Videos of blurry splotches and eye witness testimony that repeats the word "technology" over and over to imply that unlike the last 6, _this_ blurry splotch is an alien spacecraft is really just annoying at this point. EDIT: Hey judge2020 did you watch Dr Mason's analysis I linked abov…

> _this_ blurry splotch is an alien spacecraft is really just annoying at this point. I don't think anyone taking themselves seriously is considering these alien spacecraft; 'UFO' simply means unidentified flying object, which very well might be some another world superpower testing their own tech or testing the U.S. military's reaction and response to these things, likely using simple drone tech with outer shells th…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Mellon

Is a serious individual and advocating that these maybe extraterrestrial.

He gave a fascinating Joe Rogan interview recently: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2V0uWX1C4m8xEL0HHYqbnE

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by graderjs »

judge2020 wrote: post #8
etrabroline wrote: post #6

Any report that cites the navy videos from last year is not going to be very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA Videos of blurry splotches and eye witness testimony that repeats the word "technology" over and over to imply that unlike the last 6, _this_ blurry splotch is an alien spacecraft is really just annoying at this point. EDIT: Hey judge2020 did you watch Dr Mason's analysis I linked abov…

> _this_ blurry splotch is an alien spacecraft is really just annoying at this point. I don't think anyone taking themselves seriously is considering these alien spacecraft; 'UFO' simply means unidentified flying object, which very well might be some another world superpower testing their own tech or testing the U.S. military's reaction and response to these things, likely using simple drone tech with outer shells th…

I think you're taking yourself too seriously if you don't consider that it's alien. Or that it implies cooperation with aliens. I'm not saying decide that it's that, but at least open to consider it. It just seems too arrogant to consider: we're the only ones, what we know is the limit of possibility, and we're so special that even if they're out there they will never visit us. I know there are aliens, they visited us and had some tech interactions. But right now I don't know how much overlap there is between these "sightings" and aliens. I know a lot of the current narrative is disinfo and I think these tech are mostly ours, but how did we develop them? That's where the alien overlap is that I see. What you believe is valid and is up to you, but I reckon it's smart to stay open to the possibility. I don't see there is as much gained by pre-answering that question in the negative if you don't know, as there is by staying curious and open. I think that's the way to "take yourself seriously" if that's what you want to do. :)

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by quintaindilemma »

etrabroline wrote: post #6

Any report that cites the navy videos from last year is not going to be very interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWWGmiZs4JA Videos of blurry splotches and eye witness testimony that repeats the word "technology" over and over to imply that unlike the last 6, _this_ blurry splotch is an alien spacecraft is really just annoying at this point. EDIT: Hey judge2020 did you watch Dr Mason's analysis I linked abov…

Got to agree.

Something I haven't heard mentioned is the possibility that these might be artifacts of the sensors themselves or of the image processing software used: i.e., a bad Kalman filter that won't settle down properly or such.

The pics are too fuzzy to be useful for judgment and the objects usually too small to discern shape and/or size. I am puzzled that the images appear so unclear yet the pilots verbal descriptions sounds very clear.

Before buying into UFOs, I want what I've always wanted: some clear photos.

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Post by XorNot »

senortumnus wrote: post #3
spenvo wrote: post #2

This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

I've been pondering these reports as well, and my hunch is that the US is recognizing an increasing occurrence of drone or otherwise long distance, stealth aircraft that are regularly penetrating US airspace... and they want to know more. A regular feature of such articles is a well respected aviator stating, "if I'd seen it while alone, I might not have reported it." Even if it just gets US mil personnel to feel mor…

I mean a UFO that's just an unidentified foreign drone is ... a UFO until we have a different explanation.

UFOs == aliens was a connection that came about later.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by ping_pong »

graderjs wrote: post #13
astronautjones wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. and they almost all happen over declared testing areas where the air force has trialed new stuff on navy crews without telling them in the past...

Honestly that's just sampling bias. The current high profile crop are only from Navy pilots. But there's lots of data of unexplained things happening over other areas (Phoenix lights, Belgium wave, Mexico City UFOs). The difference now is that instead of random civilians, or other country militaries, saying they saw it and being ignored by the media mostly, the US armed services are pushing the story out there. None…

The Phoenix lights were easily explained by flares that disappeared behind mountains.

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Post by gridspy »

spenvo wrote: post #2

This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

> It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land.

Sounds like the detected craft were attempting to be stealthy and were caught out by military use of cutting edge technology as the "rules changed."

That and we only hear about the well documented cases, where advanced sensors meet recording technology from multiple sources - military systems in other words.

It would also be easier to find strange unauthorized stuff in the less populated and more heavily scrutinized areas - no fly zones monitored regularly by military staff for instance. Over land there is a lot of legitimate traffic to "hide" in.

Re: UFOs regularly spotted in US airspace, report on the phenomena due next month

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Post by sesteel »

All this talk about UAPs reminds me of growing up in Texas in the 80's; kids claimed they saw a black planes flying at night. My older cousin claimed one flew over his head at low altitude and we all just wondered what was going on.

I didn't really know what to believe as a kid, I thought people were making it up because the pentagon had recently admitted there was a new jet in the USAF arsenal.

Eventually, the first gulf war came in the 90's and all was revealed. I learned my best friend's father (and neighbor) was a machinist for Lockheed Martin making parts for the F117.

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