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This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

I am guessing since the sightings don’t occur over land that might be because no one is looking for them there. The Navy is very keen on sensor technologies, and trying out new, more powerful ones. These are always tested offshore. Any rival power that wanted to keep tabs on them would be in the vicinity of the sensors being tested.

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This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

> It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. and they almost all happen over declared testing areas where the air force has trialed new stuff on navy crews without telling them in the past...

Honestly that's just sampling bias. The current high profile crop are only from Navy pilots. But there's lots of data of unexplained things happening over other areas (Phoenix lights, Belgium wave, Mexico City UFOs). The difference now is that instead of random civilians, or other country militaries, saying they saw it and being ignored by the media mostly, the US armed services are pushing the story out there. None of that means that armed services are the only ones that have encountered this or have evidence of it. But the coordinated narrative, "authority source" and push definitely raises the prominence of these stories in relation to others.

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This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

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This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

Occam's razor principle says it is the first one, honestly it does not belong to HN articles, and should be treated as click bait.

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I wonder if some of this is related to the recent space missions other countries engaged in, though I understand these are usually way smaller than your average "mars/moon" ship/probe.

I doubt the current administration is keen on giving a statement on this, let alone releasing documents/material.

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This is either a pretty elaborate disinformation campaign or … some pretty interesting stuff in terms of our understanding of physics. It's also interesting how these alleged observations seem to exclusively happen within restricted US airspace over oceans - but not over US land. Other UFO HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... My bet has to be on it being an elaborate disinformat…

There's no way these are advanced technology from any country. If someone invented any technology that's 100X better than the state of the art, not to mention something that violates the laws of physics as we know them, it would be impossible to keep it a secret. There would have to be too many people involved. At a minimum you'd have credible rumors, like there were during the Manhattan and Apollo projects

If you go looking there are "credible" rumours. So-called "whistleblowers" or "SSP insiders" are videotaped on Gaia and other places to share their story. You can certainly find these if you look a bit. I trust the "whistleblowers" and "former insiders" less than thousands of random civilians who see things in the sky or have experiences tho. But your mileage or trust of different sources may vary and that's totally cool. Clearly something is going on.

I definitely agree we didn't simply "invent" this. If these are ours or we know how they work, we had to have help building them. Otherwise it's just too weird to consider an entirely parallel set of physical theories that tens of thousands of people must have learned and put into practice and it's not credibly in the open. There has to be something else stopping that from coming out, which to me implies secret cooperation with a civilization way beyond our own.

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> and starts mirroring me, so as i'm coming down it's coming up... It's mimicking your moves?... yeah it was aware we were there... "he says it was about the size of his f18 with no markings"... it gets right in front of me and it just disappears.

I keep having to check it's not April fools. Hard to suspect this is not an optical phenomena, I'm sure people found ships that appeared to hover way above the horizon similarly spooky. I wonder how much the refractive air phenomena we already know might be the start of an explanation for these things? what happens if we have very low density pockets further up in the atmosphere due to similarly large temperature differences? imagine a whole bunch of mirrors in the sky essentially, then take the shape of that air into consideration! that would make it pretty easy to start explaining objects that appear to defy aerodynamics and physics of moving objects more generally, it would likely significantly distort the image of the source object as to become unidentifiable too. Consider that most of these sightings seem to occur in fighter jets, I imagine the air density differences around these things must get pretty interesting at high speed - it would be pretty amusing if it turned out they are the source of their own optical illusion both in terms of the source and the phenomena.

This whole video is a bit silly though... the ridiculous astonishment at the start, of the admittance of existence of a phenomena that by definition is unidentified, and that if we eliminate everything we know all that remains is, uhm aliens !? - as if we know everything (except aliens of course, they somehow escape our infinite knowledge)... we're being bated right?

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