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DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by zepto »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #610
zepto wrote: post #600

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There are other possibilities - for example they can maintain a list of tainted coins, and declare them illegal to transact. This can then be enforced at the level of exchanges.

Doesn't work for privacy coins like Monero. The US treasury tried to sanction a Monero address and ended up blacklisting a transaction hash instead. https://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/sdnlist.txt > Digital Currency Address - XMR 5be5543ff73456ab9f2d207887e2af87322c651ea1a873c5b25b7ffae456c320; Note the lack of the 0x prefix. Here's the transaction on the block explorer: https://localmonero.co/blocks/search/5be55…

Sure but we’re talking about Bitcoin here.

Re: DarkSide ransomware gang quits after servers, Bitcoin stash seized

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Post by manigandham »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #608
manigandham wrote: post #568

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If someone kidnaps your family member and asks you to pay $5M, do you think you're a customer now? A customer willingly pays to get value in return. Having your resources stolen (even with the option to choose between data or money) just makes you a victim. $5M on AWS gets you $5M of services. If they didn't have to actually provide anything then they could have an entire team to talk to you 24hrs a day. But these co…

> $5M on AWS gets you $5M of services. $5M on ransomware may have saved you either $10k or $10M on security before you had to pay out.

It's impossible to have saved anything when you've been stolen from.

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Post by imwillofficial »

splithalf wrote: post #598
imwillofficial wrote: post #548

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"Would that change if they, for example, demanded the release of prisoners of a specific political persuasion?" Yes. "Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentional violence to achieve political aims." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Can drug cartels engage in terrorism? That seems like a useful edge case. They are not ideological but maybe you could say they have political goals.

For sure, it’s about the goals of the attack. If to cause terror, terrorism. If to gain money or advantage, crime.

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Post by imwillofficial »

podgaj wrote: post #442
TrackerFF wrote: post #202

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I got downvoted for saying that maybe it's time to treat serious ransomware attacks (infrastructure, security, health, etc.) as terrorism - as in the sense that they're a threat to the national security. But this kinda shows the response I was referencing to. A lot of people like to think of ransomware attacks as the ultimate stress test as far as security goes, and thus a good thing - but let's not get too blinded b…

Serious side effects, yes. I am homeless and live in my van in North Carolina and having to ration my gasoline waiting for the idiots to stop hoarding. These people thought they were sticking it to the man but they were actually sticking it to people like me.

I'm sorry for your situation. I'm living the RV life myself. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know. (In Virginia)

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Post by Can_Not »

jandrese wrote: post #345
kube-system wrote: post #284

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$500,000 salary? Let me know where these jobs are because I'd like to submit my resume.

More like a $250,000 salary + benefits. Medical coverage is hideously expensive for example. Plus retirement, dental, insurance, and taxes. Still a cushy salary for a dev, but not completely out of the realm of reason.

That's incentive for someone living in silicon valley to not do it, but outside of the hubs most of the United States has miniscule demand for tech workers (using that term very loosely), and the majority of the world would average out to something like "30k, but the job only exists if you live in the capital".

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Post by vkou »

zepto wrote: post #599
vkou wrote: post #489

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North Korea is... A special case, and it is still quite unlike any other country in the world.

That’s true of the US, Russia, and China too.

Neither of those countries have the government responsible for all economic activity that happens through the internet.

The Great Firewall is likewise, not remotely similar to the restrictions placed on internet access in North Korea.

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Post by skwog »

tantalor wrote: post #165
bredren wrote: post #45

It was a mistake to attack the business side of the oil company, because it created what could be sold as reasonable doubt to shut down the pipeline. As a result, the ransom had the optics of an attack on infrastructure. As evidenced by the coverage of Americans desperately filling up containers. This created the impetus for the US to treat this as an incident far and above the ambient ransomware activities leading u…

> business side of the oil company What are the sides of any company other than "business"?

Business side manages financial transactions. Sales, accounts receivable, accounts payable...

Operations side performs whatever services the business side has committed to.

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Post by zepto »

vkou wrote: post #617
zepto wrote: post #599

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That’s true of the US, Russia, and China too.

Neither of those countries have the government responsible for all economic activity that happens through the internet. The Great Firewall is likewise, not remotely similar to the restrictions placed on internet access in North Korea.

True, if that’s the point you intended to make.

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Post by dang »

kordlessagain wrote: post #332
TrackerFF wrote: post #202

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I got downvoted for saying that maybe it's time to treat serious ransomware attacks (infrastructure, security, health, etc.) as terrorism - as in the sense that they're a threat to the national security. But this kinda shows the response I was referencing to. A lot of people like to think of ransomware attacks as the ultimate stress test as far as security goes, and thus a good thing - but let's not get too blinded b…

HN is full of assholes who practice deprecating others to find their own worth. Set yourself free of their dogma and change the world the way you see it!

"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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