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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by intricatedetail »

herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

Due to EU terreg this will change most likely. Platforms that manually vet users may be exempt from having to have censor office in the EU and 1hr SLA to delete content.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Nextgrid »

akkawwakka wrote: post #71
buryat wrote: post #60

I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel like a celebrity is trying to feed me some content down my throat. There's so much of normalization of everything that I'm blown away by how normal Tiktok is, you can see teenagers struggling in a school, you can see people hating their 9-5 jobs, you can see crafts…

It’s definitely a pro-social, social platform. It shows that you don’t have to rely on polarizing or adversarial content to drive engagement (_ cough , like Facebook & Twitter cough )

Yet.

Remember that the platforms we complain about also started off totally fine, but eventually greed caught up with all of them.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by drloser »

Protip:

If you don't like what you see on TikTok, you need to press your screen a couple of seconds, then select "I'm not interested". It takes a couple of hours before the algorithm filters all the content you dislike.

And when you see a lot of similar vidéos (a "trend"), use the "hide the videos with this song". Most of the time, all the videos from a trend use the same music.

(I only have videos of dogs and DIY...)

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by vbsteven »

strogonoff wrote: post #109
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. For whatever reason though businesses like restaurants and bars will often nominally "have" a wide range of social media accounts, Instagram is often the only one with actual content. I used to be able to reasonably use these but I now seem to get a wall requiring login immediately. It's possibly/pro…

> Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. Pretty much everything "big" is much much worse on the mobile web, I guess because they figure they stand a pretty good shot at getting you to get The App instead. It sucks. Those are two separate issues. Almost all features of Instagram, except for interactive widgets in stories, are available fro…

Having to have an account is the problem. When someone sends me an Instagram link I used to be able to just watch the video and browse the profile. A bit later profile access was blocked. And now I can only watch a video once before it blocks for login. Only a matter of time before the window is completely closed.

On Twitter/TikTok I can watch any link without having to login. Twitter even allows anonymous search.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by strogonoff »

vbsteven wrote: post #114
strogonoff wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. Pretty much everything "big" is much much worse on the mobile web, I guess because they figure they stand a pretty good shot at getting you to get The App instead. It sucks. Those are two separate issues. Almost all features of Instagram, except for interactive widgets in stories, are available fro…

Having to have an account is the problem. When someone sends me an Instagram link I used to be able to just watch the video and browse the profile. A bit later profile access was blocked. And now I can only watch a video once before it blocks for login. Only a matter of time before the window is completely closed. On Twitter/TikTok I can watch any link without having to login. Twitter even allows anonymous search.

The post I’m replying to made two separate problems out of 1) Instagram requiring to log in, and 2) “everything big” being poorly usable on the Web. I’m not arguing with the silly login requirement (considering Instagram supports private profiles for people who don’t want to share), but providing a counterpoint to the (2).

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by NicoJuicy »

dang wrote: post #58
dang wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, I hear you and believe that you're asking in good faith. Let's break it down: > TikTok is the greatest creativity tools I've seen in years and I am fascinated Good, interesting, curious. A great start! > how people are trying to downplay or outright dismiss it Veers from curious to indignant. This is the point where things start to go wrong. > because of their nationalistic or political feelings Flamebait > It's…

I was thinking about this this evening, and thought of another way to explain the "expected value of a thread" concept (or as I sometimes put it: the value of a post is the expected value of the subthread it leads to - https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... ), which is key to HN discussion. The thing to understand is that HN threads are supposed to be conversations. A conversation isn't a one…

Damn Dang, you seriously went all out to explain, even after all those years.

Hats off

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by joeberon »

moron4hire wrote: post #47

I gotta say, to all the people complaining about TikTok being nothing but underaged girls twerking to hiphop music: if that's all you're seeing, it's cuz you went looking for it. My TikTok stream is pretty much nothing but D&D, blacksmithing (that's a new one, not really sure where that came from, but I like it) and some ginger in a bulldozer in Massachussets yelling at his phone.

Agreed, mine is all electric guitar and music production stuff

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by carstenhag »

mseepgood wrote: post #77

Is TikTok just for funniness, or does it have content that conveys information?

I'm seeing about everything. From barely naked girls, to a golf course ball pickup employee, to handymen, to excavator operators, to 2nd hand fashion stuff, disabnled people talking about their diseases, and then just jokes.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Graffur »

buryat wrote: post #60

I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel like a celebrity is trying to feed me some content down my throat. There's so much of normalization of everything that I'm blown away by how normal Tiktok is, you can see teenagers struggling in a school, you can see people hating their 9-5 jobs, you can see crafts…

Tiktok is full of girls dancing with very little or very tight clothes on for likes and attention. It's really seedy. There's subreddits dedicated to posting about these accounts.

On top of that it is designed to be addicting for the sake of addiction. It doesnt matter what the video is about once it will keep the user on the app. The algorithm will work out the perfect way for each person to be sucked in. We all know that these addicting videos won't be educational or even worthwhile. This type of stuff trends towards really useless content.

Of all the social media out there I would not let my kids use tiktok.

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Post by wccrawford »

greggman3 wrote: post #97
mseepgood wrote: post #73

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> I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel like a celebrity is trying to feed me some content down my throat. Youtube was like that before ads and monetization were introduced.

For me, youtube is better now than at any other time I've used it. My feed is almost entirely very well made talks, and lessons, and tutorials. That they have a 2-3 minute "this video brought to you by ABC" doesn't bother me at all as the content is amazing. Anything I want to know there are 25+ plus different people willing to explain it to me.

I've started to get annoyed by the ads for Raid Shadow Legends and Squarespace, and the product placement is getting nuts.

I had someone the other day say they didn't think the tool was "sponsored" because the company lent it to them to try, in order to see if they'd use it enough to justify keeping it. Uh, yeah, that's totally sponsored, even if it's only lent.

Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big stop-the-show ads that are unrelated to their content, and then multiple product placement moments that are incredibly obvious.

It's really taking away from the content of the shows.

I know they have to eat, and producing a lot of content is expensive, but I already pay for YouTube Premium to get rid of ads. And now the ads are infesting the shows anyhow.

Edit: I also support my favorite content producers on Patreon as well.

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