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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by user982 »

throwawaysea wrote: post #39
gdubs wrote: post #7

I’m pretty blown away by how ... vibrant TikTok is. There’s so many interesting niches. Photography, film making, philosophy, humor. I love seeing random accounts with 300 likes and then they’re million-plus a few weeks later. Like the guy who asks people with fancy cars what they do for a living.

Every niche except moderate or conservative politics. They are incredibly aggressive with censorship, along the same lines (progressive views) as the other platforms, but with even less transparency. It’s hard for me to feel comfortable with their success in garnering massive network effects when they suppress some ideologies and are okay with others.

Holy shit! You were censored for wanting lower taxes?

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by herpderperator »

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up.

It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to engage in some way. Instagram, Reddit, Twitter etc all bother you from the very second you load the page with modals and banners bullying you into signing up or getting their mobile app, if they let you see anything at all.

[0] https://www.tiktok.com/foryou

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by est »

dimmke wrote: post #17
dimmke wrote: post #13

TikTok really is incredible. I don't do much in the way of social media, but it's better than any other big app I've ever used. The other really cool use I've seen of this style of stitching is emergent songs. Here's an example: https://www.tiktok.com/@patwhoisnice/video/69158104300531089...

Also, it's the first social platform I've seen that has solved the new user growth problem - every user's first few videos are guaranteed hundreds of views no matter what. So good content naturally rises without having to be spammy/promote itself. Compare that to something like Twitch where growing a stream to even getting 30 regular viewers can take years of grinding and a ton of hustle. The average follower count f…

> I've seen that has solved the new user growth problem

There's always a cost, established celebs have trouble keeping up their fame. There's always some big players quit Douyin (Chinese version of Tiktok) after burn out. No one rules Tiktok forever (which is a good thing for consumers)

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by rapsey »

akkawwakka wrote: post #35
gdubs wrote: post #7

I’m pretty blown away by how ... vibrant TikTok is. There’s so many interesting niches. Photography, film making, philosophy, humor. I love seeing random accounts with 300 likes and then they’re million-plus a few weeks later. Like the guy who asks people with fancy cars what they do for a living.

It’s definitely a fount of creativity! Maybe it’s all the Gen Zers but it’s also the least toxic social network around. There’s so much joyful content there.

It is probably the most heavily moderated social network. It is I think also something that must have been created by someone not from the US. Americans belief in free speech also means you get a lot of bad with the good. TikTok surgically removes the bad.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by dang »

mrtksn wrote: post #16
dang wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not so much "off limits", it's about comment quality. Low-information, high-indignation comments are not what we want here. As topics become more divisive, comments trend sharply in that direction, so it's important to be mindful of what sort of thread your comment is likely to lead to. That's why we have this guideline: " Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisi…

Thank you for the follow up. I am not trying to push it but I'm failing to understand how I can express my opinions and experience about governments blocking apps and websites. What would make a comment describing what happened in Turkey and asking people to reconsider their support for app and website blocking in the name of claimed greater good a high quality comment? This is my second time I fail at this. If this…

Ok, I hear you and believe that you're asking in good faith. Let's break it down:

> TikTok is the greatest creativity tools I've seen in years and I am fascinated

Good, interesting, curious. A great start!

> how people are trying to downplay or outright dismiss it

Veers from curious to indignant. This is the point where things start to go wrong.

> because of their nationalistic or political feelings

Flamebait

> It's like watching fundamentalist trying to preserve their purity

Flamebait escalation

> when their kosher brands are racing to imitate

Double flamebait escalation

> Hearing the "underage girls dancing and lip syncing, no thanks" line

Yet more flamebait

> fills me with a similar rage

Indignation and flamebait

> that I get when I hear some racist stereotype

Flamebait. By the time we reach the end of a comment like this, anyone who was flammable is on fire.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by moron4hire »

I gotta say, to all the people complaining about TikTok being nothing but underaged girls twerking to hiphop music: if that's all you're seeing, it's cuz you went looking for it. My TikTok stream is pretty much nothing but D&D, blacksmithing (that's a new one, not really sure where that came from, but I like it) and some ginger in a bulldozer in Massachussets yelling at his phone.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by contriban »

herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

It’s great to occasionally see success stories from companies that break the mold and can be used as examples a-la-Craigslist. Without them we’re forever stuck with “I know that a signup lightbox on first visit is ugly, but it converts!”

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by rapsey »

meristohm wrote: post #24
Firebrand wrote: post #18

What’s really interesting about TikTok is that they’ve seem to have successfully taken making a fool of yourself on the internet (and out in public if you dance outside) mainstream. I have no idea what compels otherwise everyday people to post embarrassing and sometimes way too personal videos for potentially millions of people to laugh at but they do it. Of course, there are a lot of issues with the app itself, but…

Maybe I share to gain a sense of belonging? And/Or out of a sense that by sharing personal details I might help someone? That sounds and feels like self-importance. I took a multi-year break from contributing online, and HN is a venture back into it, in part thanks to the moderation here and the emphasis on curiosity, which is at odds with my impulse to chime in with my lived experience and perspective-thus-far. What…

I think they make the community more welcoming with heavy moderation that removes downer videos. Something an american run social network would never do.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by contriban »

moron4hire wrote: post #47

I gotta say, to all the people complaining about TikTok being nothing but underaged girls twerking to hiphop music: if that's all you're seeing, it's cuz you went looking for it. My TikTok stream is pretty much nothing but D&D, blacksmithing (that's a new one, not really sure where that came from, but I like it) and some ginger in a bulldozer in Massachussets yelling at his phone.

I keep skipping and rejecting male model videos and I keep seeing them. Are you saying TikTok is reading my mind deeper than I can access it?
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