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Overcoming Tab Overload

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Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#101

I just wish there were a way to save page state along with a bookmark or similar. Sometimes I'd really like to close a ton of tabs, or just close my browser, or a whole window, and reopen tomorrow. But I'm relying on scroll position to know where I am in 20 different documents, or login credentials that only last for 24 hours, or certain comment threads that have been expanded while others have been collapsed, or my…

This is (bugs withstanding) what Firefox does if you choose to"Restore previous session" int the General/Startup section of about:preferences . This feature is provided by a Gecko component called the the session store (https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/compone...).

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#102
post #65

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I agree, I'm the same. People who sneer at large tab collections don't seem to realise that when they can be put to sleep, tidied away (various extensions allow groups to be folded), they are more like advanced bookmarks and working context. Or, they think there is no justification for having such collections. For me they are working context for different projects over years. Working on project X a month ago? 6 month…

Is what you're describing any different from just bookmarking all the tabs in a window to a new folder and closing the window? That's what I do. And then just open the whole folder as tabs in a new window when I go back to something. Then the advantage is that I can give the folder a name, a date, tags, nest it under a grouping of folders, etc. Plus I can back up bookmarks which gives me huge peace of mind. I've been…

Why do you think you can't back up your tab session? I've had firefox corrupt the sessionstore file a few times over the years and when that happens I just open up Time Machine and restore the last good version.

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#103

I just wish there were a way to save page state along with a bookmark or similar. Sometimes I'd really like to close a ton of tabs, or just close my browser, or a whole window, and reopen tomorrow. But I'm relying on scroll position to know where I am in 20 different documents, or login credentials that only last for 24 hours, or certain comment threads that have been expanded while others have been collapsed, or my…

Perhaps Webmemex is what you are looking for? https://blog.webmemex.org/

More specifically freeze-dry, code for page state saving: https://github.com/WebMemex/freeze-dry

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#104
Based on what they show so far[1], I'm not really convinced tasks are the solution. The UI they present seems really clunky for 2021.

> He means we need something richer, that we should be collecting information by “task” or another word he brings up again and again, “context.”

Yes, context makes sense. But it needs to be context over time. Context that evolves and can be searched and revisited. You should be able to pull up the context of last month, or the 2nd week of May of last year.

> “If you think about it, Google does a good job giving us thousands of search results,” says Kittur. “But that entire process after search results is being done pretty much entirely in our heads.

Precisely. Fixing tabs is not about the browser at all. It's a problem with search. Search begins and ends at Google. What we really need is a search that starts global and integrates personally. Think of tabs as a sort of cache of what you have brought in from the broader internet. This "cache" should have a simple search interface (think Slack's search, vim Ctrl+P, fzf, Command+Space/Spotlight, etc.) but also have the ability to pull up some sort of window that you can navigate context by other means. Such as date, device, location, etc. "Show me what I was looking at on my phone when I was at Starbucks last Wednesday" kind of thing.

Tabs are the fear of losing context. Make context durable, transparent, holistic (i.e. you can zoom to either the trees or the forest), and global (sync across all devices) then you will have largely solved tabs.

[1] https://www.fastcompany.com/90635776/the-twisted-psychology-...

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#105
post #58

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Now you also probably see why many of us prefer Firefox. And: this might be hard to believe but it was much better before - extension wise.

I switched to Firefox for Tree Style Tabs.

I only stay with Firefox for tree style tabs.

I think, the day chrome makes TST possible, is the day Firefox loses a large fraction of it's remaining power users.

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#106
"... or ashamed by how many they had open"

What is this? I for one am proud of my (minimum) 4 dozen open tabs on average.

But on a more serious note, as a SE I rejoice when I see a "Also when I have a few dozen tabs open in my phone I just send them to my desktop(s) and close them on the phone - they were either too long to be read on a phone, or required some investigation before a commitment.

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#107

I would love to see a Miro-style, infinite canvas, tiling tab manager. If I zoom out past the page, show me a canvas with thumbnails of all my tabs, that I can click and drag to group or arrange however I want. Then let me zoom into one of the thumbnails to switch to that tab. Basically Apple’s mobile Photos.app interface but for browser tabs.

No zoom out, but has tile like views (grids, lists, kanban, etc.) https://www.partizion.io/

Looks cool, but requires a server to store your open tabs, which is less cool.

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#108
post #49

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I had hundreds and I use all of them at least once a week

Let’s call it 200. You have 5 days in the week. So that’s 40 tabs you need to visit each day. 5 different tabs each hour, just to get through them. Even! Even if you need to visit all those different things - you know what they are and you want to go there, so why not hit cmd-l and autocomplete on the name from any tab and open it? If I want intercom, I type ‘app.i - enter’. Why would I want it open?

I just opened HN 20 minutes ago, from there opened 5 tabs into comment threads, and from each comment thread opened the linked article in a new tab. This is a new tab I opened to reply without losing my place in the thread. That's 12 tabs.

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

#109
post #15

I feel like there are broadly 2 groups of tech literate users; those who like lots of tabs and those who keep things lean. I absolutely cannot relate to the first group, as much as I try to understand the mentality. When I’m digging deep into something new I might end up with 20 tabs, but a) it’s an exception and b) the moment I can see no more value I just close them all down and reset.

Looks like I've 81 tabs open in this Firefox window. It's not uncommon that I'll be over 1k (across one window per monitor).

With `%` to search across open tabs, and an unused tab not really taking any meaningful amount of resources (especially with Auto Tab Discard) I open a whole load of tabs, close them if I realise I'm done with them while I'm looking at them, and if I don't close the tab then that's fine -- it's probably scrolled off the left of the tab bar where I can't see it and it'll get cleaned up in due course.

Re: Overcoming Tab Overload

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post #94

I just wish there were a way to save page state along with a bookmark or similar. Sometimes I'd really like to close a ton of tabs, or just close my browser, or a whole window, and reopen tomorrow. But I'm relying on scroll position to know where I am in 20 different documents, or login credentials that only last for 24 hours, or certain comment threads that have been expanded while others have been collapsed, or my…

> a way to save page state along with a bookmark or similar. This is next on the todo list for the browser I'm writing. I have a lot of ideas for it but I want to get some basic javascript working first.

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