Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+? • Hacker News Board

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by saulrh » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 9:56 PM UTC

ctide wrote: post #19

theblueadept111 wrote: post #6

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

"Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but will Google be any better? Any legitimate complaints that I've heard are either something we're resolving or is an inherent problem that any social networking site will face." I would argue that Google will be better because it's clear they've made privacy the most important part of their offering. By making circles one of the topmost items, they take something that most…

  it certainly can be overcome with UI, it would require
  some massive changes to Facebook

Agreed here. I've known for a long time that Facebook had near-identical groups functionality, but the interface is simply so painful to use that I barely even notice it. G+, on the other hand, has created a simple and intuitive privacy interface, and everything clearly shows who can see it. They haven't just made privacy an important part of their offering, they've also made privacy easy and obvious. As password-reuse statistics show, it doesn't matter how good your security is if people refuse to lift a finger to use it.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by bdhe » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:03 PM UTC

theblueadept111 wrote: post #6

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

It's too much work to maintain multiple social networking accounts

If you truly believe it is going to be all or nothing Google, then this article (http://www.allfacebook.com/the-one-google-plus-feature-faceb...) and the HN discussion (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2715521) makes me think Google will have the upper hand. IMHO, Google is getting closer to one true online identity and one place to do everything online with their offering of Google+ than Facebook.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by magicalist » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:20 PM UTC

reso wrote: post #18

clarkbox wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" and at the end of the day, all your profile are belong to us." i think this is the exact sentiment that makes FB vulnerable in many ways. as i user, i dont want a company controlling my personal bits that just shits on the user base with an arrogant attitude "we have your personal info already". What drives internal innovation if everyone goes around thinking "fuck these fish in this barrel"

I doubt he actually works at Faecbook. I can assure you that is not the sentiment prevalent in the office.

I know a few people at facebook and it is certainly possible he works there (this kind of attitude seems slightly more prevalent amongst newer hires), but I agree it definitely is not the general sentiment around the company nor amongst most of the people making strategic decisions.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by ralfd » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:21 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #7

I'm going to venture a guess that you're only going to get politically correct answers on a public forum like HN. Something along the lines of: "We're happy to have some competition! By the way, did you know that facebook has had something like circles since 2009? Go to preferences and blah blah blah to enable it!" or "G+ and facebook fall into different categories and, in some ways, compliment one another! We're hap…

On a public forum like HN or Reddit many people are anonymous. I find the provided answers so far honest and insightful.

Did you expect an "official" replay by PR?

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by stanmancan » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:25 PM UTC

theblueadept111 wrote: post #6

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

at the end of the day, all your profile are belong to us.

That one line was enough to convince me to delete my Facebook account again, once and for all. Thank you.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by 27182818284 » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:27 PM UTC

blhack wrote: post #5

borism wrote: post #2

Zuckerberg is running around killing animals, just as usual http://theseattlesalmon.com/business-vs-cultural-news/busine...

I never understood the outrage over this. He's advocating ethical farming practice, not going on a killing rampage. The "only eat things I kill" is his way of highlighting the ways that the meat industry is doing the world wrong.

I wasn't even aware there was outrage. I mentioned it to my vegan friends and they thought it was great.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by stanmancan » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:28 PM UTC

theblueadept111 wrote: post #6

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

http://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=2715787&whence=item...

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by malbs » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:28 PM UTC

theblueadept111 wrote: post #6

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

Like others, I question whether this guy actually works for Facebook, but the "all your profile are belong to us." has done it's damage, because while perhaps you don't work there, it's highlighting a culture I know to be there.

You're more likely to be a google+ team member, simply genius!

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by 9999 » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:32 PM UTC

reso wrote: post #18

clarkbox wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" and at the end of the day, all your profile are belong to us." i think this is the exact sentiment that makes FB vulnerable in many ways. as i user, i dont want a company controlling my personal bits that just shits on the user base with an arrogant attitude "we have your personal info already". What drives internal innovation if everyone goes around thinking "fuck these fish in this barrel"

I doubt he actually works at Faecbook. I can assure you that is not the sentiment prevalent in the office.

Looking at his account history, I get a troll vibe from him.

Re: Anyone working at Facebook: what happening at Facebook on Google+?

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Post by gonehome » Thu, Jun 30, 2011, 10:42 PM UTC

bdhe wrote: post #22

theblueadept111 wrote: post #6

My opinions are my own and I can't speak for Facebook as a whole (or in any capacity, really, which is why this will forever remain an anonymous post). I think Google will gain some traction initially, but what we're working on in my group is light years ahead of the Facebook you see and use today, and probably not the same direction that Google is (or can be) heading. Yes, we've had our stumbles with privacy, but wi…

It's too much work to maintain multiple social networking accounts If you truly believe it is going to be all or nothing Google, then this article ( http://www.allfacebook.com/the-one-google-plus-feature-faceb... ) and the HN discussion ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2715521 ) makes me think Google will have the upper hand. IMHO, Google is getting closer to one true online identity and one place to do everythi…

I agree. Google already had all of the services down and well done, they just needed something to unify them. Google+ makes everything fit together and with Google's already prominent position on the web it is quite the formidable opponent.