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FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by dukeofdoom »

smoldesu wrote: post #208
dukeofdoom wrote: post #203

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I posted to corroborate that FBI is able to access iCloud accounts, with what appears to me, minimal legal oversight. Not really trying to convince anyone. But even the best arguments only fall on reasonable people's ears. That would be a heavy burden to try convince someone that gets their world view from Borat, based on a staged scene in a fictional movie. You are right. On a side note, tricking people to laugh at…

Buddy, you're the person who's comment history is full of begging people to investigate hallucinative realities and conspiracy theories. Maybe you'd be better received on Facebook, or perhaps a place like Tik-Tok where they respect hysteria.

The Universe being a holographic projection is a legit theory! Do you throw in the kitchen sink into every argument? To actually go through my comment history to find something to "win" is kind of a low move. So I'm done.

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Post by Sleepytime »

0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #196
TechBro8615 wrote: post #191

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The FBI is a political organization and domestic spying machine. The US is a police state.

The same US that wouldn't even enforce their mask mandates is a police state? This is like running around and calling anything slightly bad a country does Nazi Germany. Nuance matters, think about the world a little more complexly.

Selective enforcement of laws to political ends is a hallmark of a police state.

Also the US has the highest prison population per capita.

If it quacks like a duck...

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Post by the_optimist »

tw04 wrote: post #202
tored wrote: post #160

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Can you provide a source on that claim of polling data to Russian intelligence?

His own lawyers admitted to it in documents they tried (and failed) to redact: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/manafort... Because apparently we're going to pretend that NBCnews is somehow not a reputable news source, the link to the actual document so we can stop trying to change the subject: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5677512/Manafort-... Page 6, copy and paste the blacked out te…

This page is loaded with repeated headline statements but no substance. A collaborator to many of the NBC stories on the page you’ve provided is Ken Dilanian, a reported fired from the LA Times for his “collaborative relationship with the CIA.” I surmise this is consistent with the rest of the entire episode from LeavesTea onward.

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Post by temp8964 »

tootie wrote: post #194
temp8964 wrote: post #23

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If the FBI can use the Russia thing on a presidential candidate, they can use it on anybody.

This is a very weasely statement. The FBI and multiple other agencies investigated a very real campaign of election influence that swirled around a particular candidate. No one ever made an accusation that wasn't supported by facts. There was no concerted effort to punish a candidate. Proxies to the candidate were tried and convicted for their very real crimes.

"No one ever made an accusation that wasn't supported by facts. " Wow.

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Post by 0x5f3759df-i »

Sleepytime wrote: post #222
0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same US that wouldn't even enforce their mask mandates is a police state? This is like running around and calling anything slightly bad a country does Nazi Germany. Nuance matters, think about the world a little more complexly.

Selective enforcement of laws to political ends is a hallmark of a police state. Also the US has the highest prison population per capita. If it quacks like a duck...

And was there some great selective enforcement of the mask mandate to target a political group and lock them up?

No.

It wasn't enforced by the state at all.

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Post by Sleepytime »

0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #225
Sleepytime wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Selective enforcement of laws to political ends is a hallmark of a police state. Also the US has the highest prison population per capita. If it quacks like a duck...

And was there some great selective enforcement of the mask mandate to target a political group and lock them up? No. It wasn't enforced by the state at all.

And yet they have no hesitation to use the entire national security apparatus to chase a foreign national around the world for publishing some scientific papers.

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Post by njarboe »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #207
njarboe wrote: post #167

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"I bet they could find a few at Los Alamos labs". They have, but unfortunately they get innocent people and lock them in solitary confinement for months eventually resulting in $1.6 million dollar pay outs and presidential apologies to the accused.[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

I can't find anything in your link about presidential apologies. The judge in his case apologised: Lee pleaded guilty to one felony count of illegal "retention" of "national defense information." In return, the government released him from jail and dropped the other 58 counts against him. Judge Parker apologized to Dr. Lee for the unfair manner in which he was treated. The judge also regretted being misled by the exe…

Wikipedia is not a great source for truth of specific facts, but in the "Government investigation" section there is the line "President Bill Clinton issued a public apology to Lee over his treatment by the federal government during the investigation.[5] "

Which references a CNN article that states: "Then-President Clinton issued a public apology to Lee over his treatment."

[5] http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/05/22/scotus.wenholee/

It would be nice to find a full quote or video of the apology to be more certain that it happened and it was not a sorry, not really sorry, apology.

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Post by 0x5f3759df-i »

Sleepytime wrote: post #226
0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And was there some great selective enforcement of the mask mandate to target a political group and lock them up? No. It wasn't enforced by the state at all.

And yet they have no hesitation to use the entire national security apparatus to chase a foreign national around the world for publishing some scientific papers.

An American law enforcement agency requesting data from an American company is a far cry from "chasing a foreign national around the world".

I think it's a waste of time as much as anyone else but Sci-hub is clearly against US law. Just because you disagree with the value of a law enforcement action doesn't mean you are living in a "police state"

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Post by GeoAtreides »

Sleepytime wrote: post #222
0x5f3759df-i wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same US that wouldn't even enforce their mask mandates is a police state? This is like running around and calling anything slightly bad a country does Nazi Germany. Nuance matters, think about the world a little more complexly.

Selective enforcement of laws to political ends is a hallmark of a police state. Also the US has the highest prison population per capita. If it quacks like a duck...

> the highest prison population per capita

That's true, but the more horrifying fact is that it has the highest prison population in absolute numbers: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera...

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Post by the_optimist »

tylerhou wrote: post #168
spankyspangler wrote: post #60

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No I don't think it did have a reasonable starting point at all. Extra-ordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence, and as it turned out (as explained in Mueller's report), there never was any evidence for it. I'm not talking about vague suggestions of Russian interference, I'm talking about the conspiracy theory that Trump or his campaign colluded with Putin to hack (or otherwise subvert) the election. It never…

> as it turned out (as explained in Mueller's report), there never was any evidence for it. Can you actually quote the report to support your claims? The report actually says that there was evidence to support communication/collusion between the Trump campaign & Russian officials, but not enough evidence [that we know of] to support criminal charges. This is for two reasons: 1) The "dirt" given at the Trump tower mee…

There was no evidence that would support a criminal prosecution. You say it yourself. What exactly are you trying to rebut here?
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