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FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by avh02 »

rickdeveloper wrote: post #58
alsetmusic wrote: post #21

I really hope for the best for Elbakyan. Sorta related, the Darknet Diaries podcast just did an ep on the Pirate Bay. The ways in which US capital flexes it’s interests on sovereign nations makes me deeply uncomfortable. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/

Off topic, but that podcast is amazing. Stories, guests, production quality, narration, music, everything. It's one of the only worth listening to at 1x speed. I highly recommend it.

waaaaay too slow talking to be at 1x speed. I don't listen to podcasts that fast, but darknet diaries definitely needs a speed bump.

I like the episodes I've listened to though (so far only 5-10 of them)

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by mtgx »

laggyluke wrote: post #12
mc32 wrote: post #8

Oh boy, that ever useful boogeyman >“In December 2019, the Washington Post reported that Elbakyan was being investigated by the US Justice Department on suspicion that she “may” be working with Russian intelligence to “steal U.S. military secrets...” When you start trotting that out, you know it’s a witch-hunt because if they had real reasons they’d have stated them, since they don’t they offer vague insinuations cou…

> And whatever happened to Apple who refused to work with FBI on the San Bernardino shooter but here is only happy to comply in a much less interesting case? Nothing. It's just a matter of technical means. They had no means of unlocking that phone without potentially compromising all the rest of the phones they've made before that point. But Apple account / emails are "in the cloud", so Apple has full access to it.

> But Apple account / emails are "in the cloud", so Apple has full access to it.

PSA: So are your iCloud backed-up "e2e encrypted iMessages".

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by sthnblllII »

runjake wrote: post #68
spankyspangler wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just a presidential candidate, but a president. Did you know that after all those years of investigations, all those years of the house intelligence committee chairman and others insisting that there was "ample evidence" that Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election... in the end, The Mueller report admitted that no evidence was ever found to substantiate Trump or his associates or campaign ever working wit…

The fact that multiple people very close to Trump (Manafort, Stone, Gates, Flynn), both personally and operational, met with Russian intelligence agents and assets helps the argument that the DOJ should be looking into Trump himself.

>the DOJ should be looking into Trump himself.

Anyone still trying to stir up this nonsense partisan battle is just distracting from the recent major world events.

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by Enginerrrd »

rrdharan wrote: post #41
londons_explore wrote: post #27

I assume that when the FBI sends a request to a tech company about a user, they probably also contact lots of other tech companies too about the same user... Which raises the question: Where is the Google notification about the FBI request... How about the Facebook notification? The VK or OK notification? How about the Twitter notification? Did these tech companies hand over data without notice, even though the order…

> I assume that when the FBI sends a request to a tech company about a user, they probably also contact lots of other tech companies too about the same user... You assume a lot. I know it’s fun to pontificate about dragnet surveillance, but in general when issuing / granting a warrant there has to be some kind of specific target and scope. In this case it’s likely the FBI knew the Sci-Hub founder was using iCloud ema…

I'm not sure that's true for non-US citizens.

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Post by gebruikersnaam »

twic wrote: post #42
spankyspangler wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just a presidential candidate, but a president. Did you know that after all those years of investigations, all those years of the house intelligence committee chairman and others insisting that there was "ample evidence" that Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election... in the end, The Mueller report admitted that no evidence was ever found to substantiate Trump or his associates or campaign ever working wit…

It's not just that - some people will still, today, insist that Trump was working with Russia. When you point out that investigations found nothing, they point to some random minor finding as if that vindicates them. It's genuinely concerning.

The Mueller investigation didn't find hard proof that Trump et al. conspired with Russia because there was plenty of perjury and obstruction. When a investigation is limited by politics and vague policies, you can't blame the investigator. Mueller declared in his public hearing that he would have indicted Trump, if he wasn't president.

The fact that the Senate committee (led by the Republicans) also found plenty of connections between the Russia government and the Trump campaign says enough.

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by mc32 »

runjake wrote: post #68
spankyspangler wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just a presidential candidate, but a president. Did you know that after all those years of investigations, all those years of the house intelligence committee chairman and others insisting that there was "ample evidence" that Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election... in the end, The Mueller report admitted that no evidence was ever found to substantiate Trump or his associates or campaign ever working wit…

The fact that multiple people very close to Trump (Manafort, Stone, Gates, Flynn), both personally and operational, met with Russian intelligence agents and assets helps the argument that the DOJ should be looking into Trump himself.

Hmm, should they likewise look into J Kerry meeting with foreign diplomats whilst not being in the then current administration too?

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by Paradigma11 »

spankyspangler wrote: post #28
temp8964 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the FBI can use the Russia thing on a presidential candidate, they can use it on anybody.

Not just a presidential candidate, but a president. Did you know that after all those years of investigations, all those years of the house intelligence committee chairman and others insisting that there was "ample evidence" that Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election... in the end, The Mueller report admitted that no evidence was ever found to substantiate Trump or his associates or campaign ever working wit…

Trumps campaign manager Manafort worked for some shady ukrain/russian oligarchs. Trumps future NSA worked for the turks the whole campaign. Trumps son arranged a meeting between the campaign and representatives of the criminal russian influence campaign.

It really seems like they were not able to establish an effective cooperation but would you not want the FBI to investigate such cicumstances?

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by [deleted] »

temp8964 wrote: post #23
mc32 wrote: post #8

Oh boy, that ever useful boogeyman >“In December 2019, the Washington Post reported that Elbakyan was being investigated by the US Justice Department on suspicion that she “may” be working with Russian intelligence to “steal U.S. military secrets...” When you start trotting that out, you know it’s a witch-hunt because if they had real reasons they’d have stated them, since they don’t they offer vague insinuations cou…

If the FBI can use the Russia thing on a presidential candidate, they can use it on anybody.

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Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by gebruikersnaam »

spankyspangler wrote: post #60
knightofmars wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phrase "Russian collusion" has become a catch-all for anything involving Russian influence, it's ridiculous and it over simplifies reality. The basis for the (actual) Russian collusion investigation had a reasonable starting point. Joseph Mifsud[0], the guy that nobody can find right now. It was absolutely worth investigating and it's disappointing that it became the dog-and-pony show it did. And Russia interferi…

No I don't think it did have a reasonable starting point at all. Extra-ordinary claims require extra ordinary evidence, and as it turned out (as explained in Mueller's report), there never was any evidence for it. I'm not talking about vague suggestions of Russian interference, I'm talking about the conspiracy theory that Trump or his campaign colluded with Putin to hack (or otherwise subvert) the election. It never…

> there was "ample evidence" for it

Funny you don't mention the Senate committee (led by Republicans) which found the same evidence.

Re: FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by tiahura »

alsetmusic wrote: post #21

I really hope for the best for Elbakyan. Sorta related, the Darknet Diaries podcast just did an ep on the Pirate Bay. The ways in which US capital flexes it’s interests on sovereign nations makes me deeply uncomfortable. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/

They’re not really sovereign then, are they?
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