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Notion API – public beta

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Post by vira28 »

cristinacordova wrote: post #84
TechBro8615 wrote: post #73

Big fan of notion. Not a fan of the data lock-in or haphazard security. For tools like this, SaaS will almost always beat open source just by virtue of elbow grease and a product direction. So I’m willing to forego the open source alternatives. But I really wish Notion gave me more options for how to host my data. AFAICT they offer no “dedicated storage” or “on premise” plan, even if you want to pay for it. In fact I…

(Cristina from Notion here) We shared a bit more in the past about how most of our user content was stored in a single database instance (see more here: https://www.notion.so/notion/Focus-on-performance-reliabilit... ). That is no longer true and we recently re-architected this database to scale horizontally. Totally understand that you want more options for how to host your data. Unfortunately, we don't have any pla…

I couldn't find anywhere what database that they use. Am I missing it?

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Post by Sophistifunk »

ptd wrote: post #162
smoldesu wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Totally understand that you want more options for how to host your data. Unfortunately, we don't have any plans on that front at the moment. This is unfortunate. I tried Notion a few months back, and almost loved it enough to pay for a subscription. Once I saw that, I refunded the subscription and went back to markdown and git. I love your software, but the lock-in is frustrating.

If you’re the CEO, would you rather have a frustrating but profitable product or a non-frustrating but non-profitable product? I think people forget this part of the math.

You know, it could be that they just have a product vision and want to build and sell it to people that want it. If it's not what you want, you don't have to use it.

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Post by dexterdog »

smoldesu wrote: post #152
cristinacordova wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Cristina from Notion here) We shared a bit more in the past about how most of our user content was stored in a single database instance (see more here: https://www.notion.so/notion/Focus-on-performance-reliabilit... ). That is no longer true and we recently re-architected this database to scale horizontally. Totally understand that you want more options for how to host your data. Unfortunately, we don't have any pla…

>Totally understand that you want more options for how to host your data. Unfortunately, we don't have any plans on that front at the moment. This is unfortunate. I tried Notion a few months back, and almost loved it enough to pay for a subscription. Once I saw that, I refunded the subscription and went back to markdown and git. I love your software, but the lock-in is frustrating.

You should try obsidian plus syncthing. I use notion at work but hate how slow it is most of the time. For everything else and for all of my own stuff at work I use obsidian.

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Post by guhcampos »

I used to love notion and roughly a year ago I started migrating all our documentation into it.

Then someone at the company decided to turn our notion workspace into an ERP+CRM+Project Management tool.

Now I hate it and moved the docs all back to Gitlab.

Never logged back in.

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Post by dexterdog »

arthurofbabylon wrote: post #111

For the folks who find Notion slow or otherwise unreliable, I’d love to hear your feedback on minimal.app (or minimal.app/#beta, depending on where you’re located). Collaborative Notes just went live, making it a lighter, more focused alternative to Notion.

I avoid notion because it's so slow, but I can't use minimal because there is no Android app.

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Post by ipiz0618 »

I tried to use notion and liked the functionalities, even I only used < 10% of them. You can basically create your own static website in it. But I stopped using it after finding I can't even copy the whole note on iOS, only one paragraph at a time. Weird design decision.

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Post by namelosw »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #73

Big fan of notion. Not a fan of the data lock-in or haphazard security. For tools like this, SaaS will almost always beat open source just by virtue of elbow grease and a product direction. So I’m willing to forego the open source alternatives. But I really wish Notion gave me more options for how to host my data. AFAICT they offer no “dedicated storage” or “on premise” plan, even if you want to pay for it. In fact I…

Sigh, it is a paradox.

As a consumer, I want my software on-prem. But as a producer, I want to deploy as frequently as possible, so that I could iterate without friction, and I would try to avoid platforms/techs that are not hot upgradable.

As a consumer, I want no data tracking. But as a producer, I want data-driven growth, so that I could understand where I did wrong and how to improve it. And data comes from tracking.

This paradox is not just limited to the software industry: For example as a consumer, I prefer reading texts. But as a producer, I found videos are easier to monetize because of the attractive/addictive nature.

More often than not, the formers which benefit consumers are not justifiable in pure economic senses compared to the latters, thus the reality we are living in nowadays.

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Post by FlashBlaze »

chrisweekly wrote: post #119
robbiemitchell wrote: post #105

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Even pretty established players like Asana don't offer on prem. Curious what you'd be willing to pay for this, as it's exclusively an enterprise feature. My guess is an absolute minimum of $50k/year contract value, or 250-350 users at an enterprise per-seat price (just guessing). Aside from going fully on prem, the idea of strictly dedicated storage is interesting -- like "bring your own S3 bucket" simplicity. I don'…

You're right about Asana -- but it's worth noting that RoamResearch ($100/yr) offers private, offline dbs, and Roam's OSS "vassal" app (ie, clone) AthensResearch is self-hosted and free-as-in-beer.

Logseq https://github.com/logseq/logseq is also a good OSS alternative and they're also working on collaborative feature I believe.
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