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Notion API – public beta

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Re: Notion API – public beta

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I've seen Notion discussed on HN for a time now, and while this seems to be well received I'm not really sure what it's for.

What are the use-cases here? What's Notion being used for that this new API functionality will help in? How are you using it either personally or professionally?

Thanks

Re: Notion API – public beta

#172

I've seen Notion discussed on HN for a time now, and while this seems to be well received I'm not really sure what it's for. What are the use-cases here? What's Notion being used for that this new API functionality will help in? How are you using it either personally or professionally? Thanks

Just a wiki really which is made up of smart blocks. I've used it a couple of times professionally but the companies have usually moved on to something simpler after struggling to get buy in across the team. It can be daunting when you first use it, although very powerful.

Re: Notion API – public beta

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You're right about Asana -- but it's worth noting that RoamResearch ($100/yr) offers private, offline dbs, and Roam's OSS "vassal" app (ie, clone) AthensResearch is self-hosted and free-as-in-beer.

Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md ) also offers offline, + for free.

Are either Roam or Obsidian collaborative?

Re: Notion API – public beta

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For those like myself ignorant about the company, Notion appears to be a project management tool with integrated wiki and docs support. With at least a claimed strong user focus.

Yup, that’s how they present it, though in reality it’s pretty clunky as a project management tool, and you’d almost always be better off using a purpose-built solution. Notion makes a decent tool for a personal/organizational wiki but it’s too slow/unresponsive/janky to use for many other purposes IMO. I’ve been using it for a couple years and I used to hold out hope that the performance could be optimized, but at t…

When it first launched we talked to the guy who made it (pretty sure it started as a side project) and IIRC it was backed by a relational database with every block being a row and a lot of joins that make up a page. Hopefully they've optimised it since then, but if that's still the architecture it's going to be hard to get performant.

Re: Notion API – public beta

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>Totally understand that you want more options for how to host your data. Unfortunately, we don't have any plans on that front at the moment. This is unfortunate. I tried Notion a few months back, and almost loved it enough to pay for a subscription. Once I saw that, I refunded the subscription and went back to markdown and git. I love your software, but the lock-in is frustrating.

If you’re the CEO, would you rather have a frustrating but profitable product or a non-frustrating but non-profitable product? I think people forget this part of the math.

(I work at Notion)

"Lock in" is not a part of our strategy. We try to offer data portability via import and export; you can export your entire workspace as HTML (most metadata, pages link to each other and can be browsed offline), PDF, or Markdown (most easily editable). Given an HTML export and a few hours of scripting, I think you could migrate to any API-accessible document storage strategy.

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#178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right about Asana -- but it's worth noting that RoamResearch ($100/yr) offers private, offline dbs, and Roam's OSS "vassal" app (ie, clone) AthensResearch is self-hosted and free-as-in-beer.

Obsidian ( https://obsidian.md ) also offers offline, + for free.

Zero cost but not Free Software. Another untrustworthy thing like Notion.

Re: Notion API – public beta

#179

Big fan of notion. Not a fan of the data lock-in or haphazard security. For tools like this, SaaS will almost always beat open source just by virtue of elbow grease and a product direction. So I’m willing to forego the open source alternatives. But I really wish Notion gave me more options for how to host my data. AFAICT they offer no “dedicated storage” or “on premise” plan, even if you want to pay for it. In fact I…

This is the reason I use Obsidian. https://obsidian.md/ All of your data is locally stored markdown text files with no lock in. All of the amazing benefits of linked note taking without the downsides.

+1 on Obsidian. It requires a different way of taking notes to be really useful but it's all part of learning to take better notes.

Re: Notion API – public beta

#180

Big fan of notion. Not a fan of the data lock-in or haphazard security. For tools like this, SaaS will almost always beat open source just by virtue of elbow grease and a product direction. So I’m willing to forego the open source alternatives. But I really wish Notion gave me more options for how to host my data. AFAICT they offer no “dedicated storage” or “on premise” plan, even if you want to pay for it. In fact I…

(Cristina from Notion here) We shared a bit more in the past about how most of our user content was stored in a single database instance (see more here: https://www.notion.so/notion/Focus-on-performance-reliabilit... ). That is no longer true and we recently re-architected this database to scale horizontally. Totally understand that you want more options for how to host your data. Unfortunately, we don't have any pla…

Off-topic question. Who draws the illustrations for Notion's marketing pages? I love the art work.
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