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Notion API – public beta

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Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by TechBro8615 »

chrisweekly wrote: post #120
TechBro8615 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Even pretty established players like Asana don't offer on prem. Sounds like an opportunity ;) Starting or rearchitecting a project gives you the rare chance to make decisions that your competitors never even had available to them. You can leverage new tech to move faster, and you can learn from their mistakes to avoid their most costly traps. “Bring your own S3 bucket” actually sounds pretty awesome and I wish more…

You might want to take a look at AthensResearch (free, self-hosted RoamResearch clone).

Oh I have. Problem is Notion is most popular with the least technical people on our team. Migrating would be a hard sell.

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Post by petemir »

barbazoo wrote: post #116
InitialLastName wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest thing I'm trying to replace as I move off of Notion is the dynamic lists embedded in notes. I couldn't tell but that doesn't seem like a thing in Joplin; am I missing something?

You mean lists like this: https://www.notion.so/Products-Materials-92c8bdfbcbd049e3a97... That doesn't exist in Joplin.

But perhaps it is doable with the new plugin system!

Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by kachnuv_ocasek »

robbiemitchell wrote: post #105
TechBro8615 wrote: post #73

Big fan of notion. Not a fan of the data lock-in or haphazard security. For tools like this, SaaS will almost always beat open source just by virtue of elbow grease and a product direction. So I’m willing to forego the open source alternatives. But I really wish Notion gave me more options for how to host my data. AFAICT they offer no “dedicated storage” or “on premise” plan, even if you want to pay for it. In fact I…

Even pretty established players like Asana don't offer on prem. Curious what you'd be willing to pay for this, as it's exclusively an enterprise feature. My guess is an absolute minimum of $50k/year contract value, or 250-350 users at an enterprise per-seat price (just guessing). Aside from going fully on prem, the idea of strictly dedicated storage is interesting -- like "bring your own S3 bucket" simplicity. I don'…

> it's exclusively an enterprise feature

Are you suggesting privacy and data ownership concerns are only limited to enterprises?

Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by louisvgchi »

bnt wrote: post #17
owlbynight wrote: post #12

When I initially signed up for Notion, I did so thinking the API was already usable. It was used as a selling point for their premium service even though it wasn't implemented. This was a year and a half ago or so. I felt pretty burned by it and killed my subscription. Hopefully this turns out well for the people who've been waiting for it, but that experience left a terrible taste in my mouth.

Isn't that the whole point of Agile MVP development? Sell something that doesn't exist and hope someone buys it? Personally, I don't expect much from it, after working with Airtable's API and hating every second of it.

What in particular did you not like about their API?

Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by aeyes »

wpietri wrote: post #47
owlbynight wrote: post #12

When I initially signed up for Notion, I did so thinking the API was already usable. It was used as a selling point for their premium service even though it wasn't implemented. This was a year and a half ago or so. I felt pretty burned by it and killed my subscription. Hopefully this turns out well for the people who've been waiting for it, but that experience left a terrible taste in my mouth.

For those like myself ignorant about the company, Notion appears to be a project management tool with integrated wiki and docs support. With at least a claimed strong user focus.

The opposite is true, its a WYSIWYG wiki which you can abuse for project management. The project management capabilities are similar to Github Project boards which means that it is very basic.

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Post by 0x5f3759df-i »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #73

Big fan of notion. Not a fan of the data lock-in or haphazard security. For tools like this, SaaS will almost always beat open source just by virtue of elbow grease and a product direction. So I’m willing to forego the open source alternatives. But I really wish Notion gave me more options for how to host my data. AFAICT they offer no “dedicated storage” or “on premise” plan, even if you want to pay for it. In fact I…

This is the reason I use Obsidian. https://obsidian.md/

All of your data is locally stored markdown text files with no lock in.

All of the amazing benefits of linked note taking without the downsides.

Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by gumby »

kachnuv_ocasek wrote: post #123
robbiemitchell wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even pretty established players like Asana don't offer on prem. Curious what you'd be willing to pay for this, as it's exclusively an enterprise feature. My guess is an absolute minimum of $50k/year contract value, or 250-350 users at an enterprise per-seat price (just guessing). Aside from going fully on prem, the idea of strictly dedicated storage is interesting -- like "bring your own S3 bucket" simplicity. I don'…

> it's exclusively an enterprise feature Are you suggesting privacy and data ownership concerns are only limited to enterprises?

I think it suggests that the support and SLA costs are higher in these situations.

These factors make sense to me. Note that Gitlab believes the opposite so on prem is also free.

Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by EduardoBautista »

arthurofbabylon wrote: post #111

For the folks who find Notion slow or otherwise unreliable, I’d love to hear your feedback on minimal.app (or minimal.app/#beta, depending on where you’re located). Collaborative Notes just went live, making it a lighter, more focused alternative to Notion.

This is something I have been wanting for a while! Markdown collaborative notes in a native app!

Definitely downloading...

Re: Notion API – public beta

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Post by Spivak »

MattRix wrote: post #45
ibdf wrote: post #41

I really like the idea of what notion is trying to do, but their "databases" drive me nuts. They force a default column that's useless for relationships... and I never know if they want to be database like or excel like. Notion needs a good roadmap, and also start acknowledging user feedback, besides the "we got your feedback".

Along the same lines, the fact that they don’t have any simple inline tables that aren’t “databases” is annoying. Sometimes I don’t want a database or a spreadsheet, just a simple inline table with a few columns.

Kinda confused about this one? Inline tables are ... well inline tables. Why does it matter that they're actually pages/databases? Is it that you want tables in the formatting sense?
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