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Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

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Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#61

It should be noted that Colonial had several infosec openings at the time of the attack. While having those filled might not have prevented this attack, it also might have or at least put them in a better response position. There are lots of infosec openings across the country but compensation doesn't seem to be rising in response. It appears that companies are fine with leaving these positions open for long periods…

I mean, if you ignore how H1B's work, yeah you could call it complacency.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#62
One thing that this attack has proven is that if we ever reach the point where we engage in military conflict with either Russia or China we are going to be functioning as if we experienced a country wide emp within a few days. Our infrastructure is massively vulnerable.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#63

Every corporation in the US should be lobbying to abolish Bitcoin. It’s an existential threat that could be eliminated if they pooled their financial and political resources.

It'd have to be an international effort as there are big mining operations are in Russia, Switzerland, China, Iceland as well as the US.

Being legal means that you can run big mining operations, so you could clamp down on those and slow mining. That would not stop it, though.

Being legal means that it can be used to trade goods and services, and you could clamp down on that and harm its value as a currency.

And being legal means that legal businesses can exchange it for other currencies, so clamping down on that harms its liquidity.

Even if you can make it broadly illegal across the globe, it's hard to see how effective that would be. Illegality has made anything else on the black market go away, after all, and the whole point of a crypto-currency is to thrive despite government suppression.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

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post #43

Paying ransom should be illegal. Ransom funds illegal activities. Not indirectly, like buying coffee or poppyseed or whatever, but literally money that is directly reinvested in criminal activity- like ransomware.

The ransom payments are covered by insurance. It’s the insurance companies making the payments.

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Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#65

All that money and lawlessness that went into enabling security agencies must be crowned as the worst investment ever

That has nothing to do with this the FBI presumably cannot enforce security on a company.

Maybe for some industries they need to start mandating Security Clearances and background checks and no outsourcing of certain critical systems work.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#66

It should be noted that Colonial had several infosec openings at the time of the attack. While having those filled might not have prevented this attack, it also might have or at least put them in a better response position. There are lots of infosec openings across the country but compensation doesn't seem to be rising in response. It appears that companies are fine with leaving these positions open for long periods…

You don't need infosec staff to know that you should have backups of the data on your important computers/servers.

Being hit by ransomware is not an indicator of total IT incompetence.

Having no good options but to pay the ransom absolutely is.

All ransomware is doing is exposing the existing hope-based DR plans (that is to say, lack thereof) in the industry.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#67

Every corporation in the US should be lobbying to abolish Bitcoin. It’s an existential threat that could be eliminated if they pooled their financial and political resources.

We should start calling Bitcon etal cyber crime futures, since that's what it is. The only people that have to use it are crime victims and the people who are making money on it are criminals and speculators.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#68

Paying ransom should be illegal. Ransom funds illegal activities. Not indirectly, like buying coffee or poppyseed or whatever, but literally money that is directly reinvested in criminal activity- like ransomware.

it should be illegal if the government wants to help recoup the losses.

If a have a firm that makes $100,000,000 a year in net-profit , paying a $5 ransomware is a cost of doing business, an unfortunate one nonetheless

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#69

It should be noted that Colonial had several infosec openings at the time of the attack. While having those filled might not have prevented this attack, it also might have or at least put them in a better response position. There are lots of infosec openings across the country but compensation doesn't seem to be rising in response. It appears that companies are fine with leaving these positions open for long periods…

Are there enough Infosec people to fill every open job for it in the USA? I would imagine that it is like software development, where the unemployed software devs are the kind that can't figure out git.

Re: Colonial Pipeline Paid Hackers Nearly $5M in Ransom

#70
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is an acceptable outcome. Let the victims suffer. That protects the rest of us, and serves as an object lesson in proper cyber security.

So let people who aren’t experts at physical security suffer break-ins, and physically weak people get beaten up? We have law enforcement so everyone can be free to focus on their own value-add in life without having to learn 1000 skills to cover their own ass. I love security but 99% of people don’t, and shouldn’t

> So let people who aren’t experts at physical security suffer break-ins, and physically weak people get beaten up?

First, in many jurisdictions, paying protection money for physical security is illegal.

Second, Colonial Pipeline has an operating revenue of $1.32 billion. I suppose in the USA it's technically a person, but... it's not actually a person.

> We have law enforcement so everyone can be free to focus on their own value-add in life without having to learn 1000 skills to cover their own ass. I love security but 99% of people don’t, and shouldn’t

I submit that oil pipeline operators, hospitals, and large corps are part of that 1%.

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