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Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over WhatApp rules

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Re: Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over WhatApp rules

#91

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> Perhaps Facebook believes that the regulator has stepped beyond its legal authority and would prefer to have a court decide the matter? Then they can contest the injunction and if wasn't justified, it will be revoked. But they can't just ignore it.

Apparently they can just ignore it, though, at the risk of whatever consequences would apply. I confess I do not know the details of the legalities around this particular injunction, whether it behaves like an American injunction, etc. I notice that not a court but a commissioner issued this injunction, and not even a commissioner with authority over all of Germany, but one just within the (state? province? municipal…

Hamburg is a state, and laws are generally executed by the states in Germany. That includes federal and union laws. So that's perfectly normal. I don't know if the the injunction technically applies to all of Germany, but since Facebook doesn't necessarily know if someone is from Hamburg, it probably doesn't matter in practice.

In the long run, you can only operate in a jurisdiction in which you are welcome. Especially when your position is unique like Facebook's. A foreign company that openly ignores the law is not and I can only attribute Facebook's behaviour to arrogance.

Re: Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over WhatApp rules

#92
Ban for FB would be a joy ! But users need to have alternative and none really exists.

But let's start with theory: is there really need for global reach social net site ? You just need family and friends. But that escalates quick... Also just find and add in same portal is a basic feature. So how to split FB ?

Re: Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over WhatApp rules

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Germany would do well to ban all advertising based services. Fuck them all!

A huge chunk of internet is supported by some form of advertisement, then they will start blocking germany. Good luck finding a search engine working without ads.

I’m building it.

Re: Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over WhatApp rules

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You could just do both: start with relatively modest fines, then escalate if they don't comply.

Exponentially?

I don't know if that's strictly necessary. Even a linear increase of 1x, 2x, 3x, 4x, 5x, etc. seems like it could be sufficient?

Re: Facebook will ignore data collection ban issued in Germany over WhatApp rules

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> the new service will be pay to use in order to generate revenue. In which case, nobody outside Europe would use it. In which case, barely anyone inside Europe would use it. WhatsApp previously was a paid app and had 500 million paying users.

Technically... yes. But the $1/year was AFAIK not enough to cover costs.

What? They had like, < 100 engineers.
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