A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica
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#2Future of expeditions to Mars?
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#3> Among the first things he said when he rediscovered his voice was that he was going to murder his superior, chief engineer Henri Somers, as soon as he had the chance.
One has to wonder what where his thoughts for two weeks ..., probably, for whatever reason thoughts where around time when engineer told him something that he did not like, and it was so minor, he would forget about next day in normal times, without giving any thought what so ever.
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#4Future of expeditions to Mars?
On a single usb stick we have interactive games and all human knowledge available, I think mars explorers will be just fine.
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#5Future of expeditions to Mars?
Was thinking the same thing.
But… although I do 100% drink the Elon Koolaid about "us" colonizing Mars, I really doubt that humans, as we know them today, are the creature that is going to be there.
It will instead be some planet-specific tweaked versions of us and other creatures, eventually in a different substrate even, as opposed to bags of meat.
When you think of it that way, the possibilities for mental health are just a sub-problem of the larger problem of aligning AGI.
I said I drink the Koolaid, and the above may sound out of line with what Elon has been saying about making humans multi-planetary.
But if you read between the lines of what he says, I think this is already his view; he just doesn't say it the way I did above because (I think his reason is) the freakout factor is too high. It is consistent with what he does say. Lately he has been saying "make life multi-planetary" and "make consciousness multi-planetary" not just humans. He still says humans too but it may be a loose usage of the word humans, and I don't doubt there will be a transition period with some homo sapiens. Long term, not so much.
OK that kind of got far afield but the point is mental health is going to be a different equation by that point. Maybe harder actually, but different.
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#6Future of expeditions to Mars?
On a single usb stick we have interactive games and all human knowledge available, I think mars explorers will be just fine.
I think the COVID-19 pandemic has shown a lot of us that actual physical isolation from others can be much more detrimental to our mental well-being than we thought, even for those of us who were already used to being on our own for prolonged periods of time.
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#7Future of expeditions to Mars?
On a single usb stick we have interactive games and all human knowledge available, I think mars explorers will be just fine.
Not everyone's a gamer, and even those that are get bored with games after a while.
There are even fewer readers than gamers, and even those that are get bored with reading after a while.
Many people want to go outside and do something every now and then... but on the way to/from Mars there's nowhere to go, and every moment you're in space you know that on the other side of thin shield of metal lies death.
Sure, people could still entertain/distract themselves and each other.. and they'll have to. But it won't necessarily be easy to do in the long term.. especially if things start going wrong, if tempers flare up, or if serious incompatibilities are discovered among the crew.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
On a single usb stick we have interactive games and all human knowledge available, I think mars explorers will be just fine.
I think the COVID-19 pandemic has shown a lot of us that actual physical isolation from others can be much more detrimental to our mental well-being than we thought, even for those of us who were already used to being on our own for prolonged periods of time.
> I think the COVID-19 pandemic has shown a lot of us that actual physical isolation from others can be much more detrimental to our mental well-being than we thought.
Can you site source for this claim, I do not see any detrimental mental health, at least in terms of people are willingness to go back to work from office.
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#9Future of expeditions to Mars?
Was thinking the same thing. But… although I do 100% drink the Elon Koolaid about "us" colonizing Mars, I really doubt that humans, as we know them today, are the creature that is going to be there. It will instead be some planet-specific tweaked versions of us and other creatures, eventually in a different substrate even, as opposed to bags of meat. When you think of it that way, the possibilities for mental health…
Not just mental health, but physical as well. Humans are not well suited for long term high G environments, while I have every expectation that we will someday make it to other planetary systems I doubt the meatbags will be coming along.
Re: A brief history of people losing their minds in Antarctica
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was thinking the same thing. But… although I do 100% drink the Elon Koolaid about "us" colonizing Mars, I really doubt that humans, as we know them today, are the creature that is going to be there. It will instead be some planet-specific tweaked versions of us and other creatures, eventually in a different substrate even, as opposed to bags of meat. When you think of it that way, the possibilities for mental health…
Not just mental health, but physical as well. Humans are not well suited for long term high G environments, while I have every expectation that we will someday make it to other planetary systems I doubt the meatbags will be coming along.
Yes absolutely.