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Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by MyHypatia »

Udik wrote: post #15
MyHypatia wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the clown world is hiring someone who wrote: “Most women in the Bay Area are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit. They have their self-regarding entitlement feminism, and ceaselessly vaunt their independence, but the reality is, come the epidemic plague or foreign invasion, they’d become precisely the sort of useless baggage you’d trade for a box o…

This is a wider excerpt: "When she was in her teens, her father decided to move the family to the United States, where they suffered a financial reversal she was unwilling to talk about. Suddenly not among the moneyed class, she hustled herself through the redbrick boondocks of the University of Vermont. Citibank internship led to a Deutsche Bank job, and after a few years she was an equity derivatives trader at Deut…

He did not write a fiction novel. He wrote a book about his time working on ads at Facebook. He has now been hired to work on ads at Apple. Pointing this out is not "throwing away all literature".

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by rasputnik6502 »

Something bad is happening to companies, they become full of shit because of nothing. Isn't there a difference between expressing unpopular opinions and actually abusing or attacking people? Or thoughtcrime is becoming punishable? Someone is working hard on adding fuel to misogyny

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by tomnipotent »

Udik wrote: post #15
MyHypatia wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the clown world is hiring someone who wrote: “Most women in the Bay Area are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit. They have their self-regarding entitlement feminism, and ceaselessly vaunt their independence, but the reality is, come the epidemic plague or foreign invasion, they’d become precisely the sort of useless baggage you’d trade for a box o…

This is a wider excerpt: "When she was in her teens, her father decided to move the family to the United States, where they suffered a financial reversal she was unwilling to talk about. Suddenly not among the moneyed class, she hustled herself through the redbrick boondocks of the University of Vermont. Citibank internship led to a Deutsche Bank job, and after a few years she was an equity derivatives trader at Deut…

> So it's a passage in a (novel? Definitely a literary piece anyway)

It's not fiction. It's an autobiography. These are his personal opinions and feelings.

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by zoeysaurusrex »

mgamache wrote: post #11

It's not like Apple is making money from misogynistic music or supports a regime that enforces female sterilization. As long as Apple employees to have a safe space from offensive ideas and people all is okay.

So you think women should feel okay working alongside someone who thinks they are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit?

It's not about safe spaces or offensive ideas. It's about enabling sexism and racism to freely propagate while telling minority groups that it isn't harmful despite past experience.

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Post by rasputnik6502 »

tomnipotent wrote: post #23
Udik wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a wider excerpt: "When she was in her teens, her father decided to move the family to the United States, where they suffered a financial reversal she was unwilling to talk about. Suddenly not among the moneyed class, she hustled herself through the redbrick boondocks of the University of Vermont. Citibank internship led to a Deutsche Bank job, and after a few years she was an equity derivatives trader at Deut…

> So it's a passage in a (novel? Definitely a literary piece anyway) It's not fiction. It's an autobiography. These are his personal opinions and feelings.

Since when personal feelings and opinions should be prosecuted? And who is so entitled to give themselves such right?

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by tomnipotent »

rasputnik6502 wrote: post #25
tomnipotent wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So it's a passage in a (novel? Definitely a literary piece anyway) It's not fiction. It's an autobiography. These are his personal opinions and feelings.

Since when personal feelings and opinions should be prosecuted? And who is so entitled to give themselves such right?

Yes. We're allowed to judge people for the things they do and so, and decide we don't want to work with them. He's allowed his, and we're allowed ours. Many people are not interested with working with people that hold these world views, not when they have influence over the career progression of others.

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by Udik »

tomnipotent wrote: post #26
rasputnik6502 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when personal feelings and opinions should be prosecuted? And who is so entitled to give themselves such right?

Yes. We're allowed to judge people for the things they do and so, and decide we don't want to work with them. He's allowed his, and we're allowed ours. Many people are not interested with working with people that hold these world views, not when they have influence over the career progression of others.

The question is not whether it's allowed or not, it is. The question is whether it's stupid or not, and I think it is, terribly so.

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by SirSourdough »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #4
Calvin02 wrote: post #2

Apple hiring a former Facebook ad products product manager, expanding its ads product suite, and expanding ads slots says more about how they see Facebook than the privacy changes they've made. Ads is a services market that is growing fast and as the phone market saturates, services will become more important for Apple. This will also help reduce the margin pressure on iPhone hardware.

How can anything ad related still be growing if most people either trained their brain to ignore/close ads instantly or use adblockers?

Because good advertising still impacts you even if you “know to ignore it”, and there’s lots of ways to advertise to people that aren’t ads in the classic sense.

I suspect that adblocker usage is also a lot lower than you expect, with a quick Google showing less than half of people worldwide using adblockers on desktop and adoption below 20% for mobile devices in the US. So there’s still a broad market to target.

Re: Apple employees petition demanding investigation into ‘misogynistic’ new hire

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Post by rasputnik6502 »

tomnipotent wrote: post #26
rasputnik6502 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when personal feelings and opinions should be prosecuted? And who is so entitled to give themselves such right?

Yes. We're allowed to judge people for the things they do and so, and decide we don't want to work with them. He's allowed his, and we're allowed ours. Many people are not interested with working with people that hold these world views, not when they have influence over the career progression of others.

Well I'm not interested in working with people who feel entitled to targeting someone and mobbing to destroy them based on opinions and personal beliefs. This is illegal activity imho
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