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Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

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I would rather pay $79 USD a month for this than what I get with leadpages that I mostly use for easy editing/creation. One click editing was awesome right on the homepage. Love this and can imagine using it for a number of quick things. If I were leadpages or a similar company I'd buy this outright right now before y'all build up your own community and the price reflects that. If you're thinking of a model I'd sugge…

> I'd pay $79 USD a month for this

Uh... wow.

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#112
post #25

I miss a 'Jump to random mmm.page'. No time or creativity to add something myself, but I'd like to get a few impressions on the jumbly messy things that are being made..

gallery coming soon — i've been resharing some nice pages on https://twitter.com/xhfloz in the meantime!

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#114
This looks like a lot of fun, speaking as someone who loves the weirdness of the old web, but understands the challenges of re-creating such 'messy by design' sites with pure HTML/CSS.

Wordpress has moved in this direction with Gutenberg (where you can add 'blocks' inside the element for things like columns, tables, images, iframes. Full Site Editing has been "coming soon" for a while however.

But even so, Wordpress (or Wix or Squarespace) isn't offering the "Clippy meets PowerPoint" level of drag and drop that can result in fun sites. For example, rotating an element so it appears a little off-centre and askew isn't supported out of the box in WP Gutenberg. You have to be able to edit your CSS file to do this. Whereas in PowerPoint, you can rotate and scale elements easily.

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes!! Why not, the website as art? As the medium and the message? A network of creative expression? Or as a "diary" where every entry is more scrapbook-y and less uniform blog? Could be fun. We need more fun.

Honestly, because it takes work. I'm not even talking about technical work, but creative work. To do this well, you want to think about your message and then about how to convey that message not just in the content, but in how the content is presented (sometimes geocities-esque chaos isn't quite the right vibe). Then you need to figure out how to fit that presentation into the assumptions of your web technology (I pe…

> To do this well, you want to think about your message and then about how to convey that message

We all have to do some version of this in PowerPoint for school or for our jobs. We can go nuts with PPT transitions and animations, but we usually don't.

This is the same principle. You can use it to make a nice Squarespace like site, or go full lo-fi punk rock zine if you want. IMO that's what computers promised in the '80s and later with desktop publishing software. It's been missing from the web for far too long.

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#116
post #94
post #5

> Websites shouldn't all look the same. We prefer campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect. I really like the design aesthethic this product encourages. There's so much charm and fun and eccentricity that's lost in a web where full-height responsive image backgrounds and blocky design frameworks are ubiquitous. If this can help people express just a little bit of the wild creativity of things like early 2000's MySpace layout…

Is there a way to ...see this design aesthetic outside their main page?

Not sure if this is what you mean, but I thought Basecamp's homepage kinda resembles MMM's landing page:

https://basecamp.com/

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#117
post #25

I miss a 'Jump to random mmm.page'. No time or creativity to add something myself, but I'd like to get a few impressions on the jumbly messy things that are being made..

Great idea, would be good to see what users have created. It shouldn't be totally random though, as that could just go to a bunch of incomplete sites. It should be curated a little bit.

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#118
post #116
post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a way to ...see this design aesthetic outside their main page?

Not sure if this is what you mean, but I thought Basecamp's homepage kinda resembles MMM's landing page: https://basecamp.com/

Thank you, feels very friendly.

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#119

I hate making a new login that I have to remember for things I might not even use. It would be nice if you could create the website first , then only sign up if you liked it and wanted to save it. This stops me from testing cool looking projects like this all the time :( EDIT: that being said, I love that you can edit the landing page itself, that at least gives me some idea of how it works, although then if I turn i…

So I think this is an excellent point. I'd love to do something like that for my product as well. However, there are a few considerations, some of bigger consequence than others: - How do you keep users from losing their data when they leave and come back? Cookies with an ID are a brittle solution. You could have a unique link, where the user's work is saved right up until they want to register - How do you deal with…

I never watch videos personally, but that's more because most of them are terrible and don't help than anything (they either just talk about it and never show the actual product, or take 5 minutes introducing themselves before the 1 minute demo, etc.). I'm sure it could be done right though, but I'd bet other people have also been trained not to click videos.

The email gate sounds good (except don't generate a password that will then be visible in plain text, generate a one-time login that can't be reused after a certain amount of time and give the user the option to set a password later if they want one); sites could expire after a bit and a real account (where the site doesn't expire) could only be created if/when the user chooses to create a password and you can't save or use features that could trigger emails until you've verified your email or something.

Re: Show HN: Mmm.page – Drag and drop personal website creator

#120

I hate making a new login that I have to remember for things I might not even use. It would be nice if you could create the website first , then only sign up if you liked it and wanted to save it. This stops me from testing cool looking projects like this all the time :( EDIT: that being said, I love that you can edit the landing page itself, that at least gives me some idea of how it works, although then if I turn i…

So I think this is an excellent point. I'd love to do something like that for my product as well. However, there are a few considerations, some of bigger consequence than others: - How do you keep users from losing their data when they leave and come back? Cookies with an ID are a brittle solution. You could have a unique link, where the user's work is saved right up until they want to register - How do you deal with…

Serializing the user's session state to LocalStorage comes to mind as a reasonable solution. Comes with it's own caveats, of course (you now have a state versioning problem), but addresses all the points you bring up pretty adequately:

1. As long as their on the same device/browser, they lose zero data. This is a pretty reliable happy-path use case.

2. The only onslaught you'll deal with is simple pageviews since everything in the trial is stored client side, which also makes #3 no problem.

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