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The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

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Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#121

Make coins paid in ransom subject to seizure wherever they may be found. It’s not a silver bullet but it would help and it’s an easy change to make.

Already the case/law. The US had seized and sold many BTC over the years. The Silk Road seized coins were sold to the highest bidder.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

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This is just an ad hominem response to Stephen's argument.

It shows a clear bias on the part of the author and a reason to believe they would argue in bad faith. The author being a founder a company for which cryptocurrencies are competitors makes this doubly true.

>The author being a founder a company for which cryptocurrencies are competitors makes this doubly true.

I totally missed this. That makes it worse. The company's tagline is "[company name] digitises cash and settlement processes for multinational corporates [sic?]", which is a pretty clear overlap. I don't necessarily see any evidence he's doing anything in bad faith, though - I just think he's extremely biased and narrowly agenda-driven.

My main issue is just how much he seems to viscerally hate cryptocurrencies. It makes it harder to take it seriously. Like how incredibly snarky and spiteful he comes across in his most recent ostensibly-about-programming blog post: https://www.stephendiehl.com/posts/fpt.html

  cryptoBusinessLogic = bid $ 10000000 $ do
    profits 
It's all starting to feel so political and a little bit religious. I sense a lot of parallels between staunchly pro- and anti-cryptocurrency people and the US political divide and culture wars. I know it's an annoying trope (https://xkcd.com/774/), but in the case of both politics and cryptocurrency, each side seems insufferable. I feel "accidentally moderate" (http://www.paulgraham.com/mod.html) on both topics.

edit: Side note, just to counter-balance the criticism. I knew his name seemed familiar; he wrote one of the most useful and formative tutorials for me when I started programming about a decade ago: https://sdiehl.github.io/gevent-tutorial/. (Although it's a bit gauche now, I still use gevent for new projects to this day.) It's more due to serendipity than anything else since there's not anything too special about it, but in my case it's actually possible I never would've become a developer if not for his tutorial - I used it to build my first programming project at a time when I was kind of struggling with many concepts and unsure if I wanted to go through with it. It goes to show that there isn't necessarily much correlation between (one's perception of) people's technical and non-technical attributes.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#123
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so long as encryption-as-we-know-it holds-up, there's no rescue for orgs that repeatedly get hit and can't get their backup strategy together. Sure, you make a regulatory mis-step and you have friends in high places, they will look the other way. This indeed, is how the world works. If your entire infrastructure is encrypted into a solid block of nothingness it doesn't matter if your dad is a senator, you're done.

Name a single company that has died due to data breaches. Meanwhile, I'll name a dozen that got breached/leaked data, and got away with it: Experian, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Marriott, Yahoo, First American Financial Corporation, Deep Root Analytics, Court Ventures (a subsidiary of Experian), Capital One, Anthem. Go on, search "list of largest data breaches" and then see how many of those companies are still in b…

"breached data" doesn't matter to companies, as we've seen. "gone data" is an existential threat.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#124
More blaming money for crime. Cryptocurrency is money. Crime will always exist as long as there are laws. Laws will exist as long as there is society. Money will exist as long as there is trade. SocietyTrade. Stephen once again shouts at the inanimate money or tech to blame it for societies ills. This is a dangerous attitude can lead to cryptography restrictions, like banning of e2e or tor.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

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But that only applies to targets who are "in the game." If you are a government entity or listed company or act as their agents, then you know that security is an issue and are paid well enough to make a decent effort. Whether you do or not is a different issue. Grandma doesn't have security audits, wouldn't know how to do one, and couldn't afford it if she did. She is the victim here. She might call the police but t…

I believe that subversion of the democratic process and economic efficiency hurts everyone, if not initially or obviously. Recent election cycles have been tumultuous. Grandmas are currently targeted by scammers who ask for iTunes gift card numbers and not Bitcoin, I'm not sure that much will change. I've yet to hear people call for a ban on iTunes gift cards, but maybe we will get there.

I agree with your gift card point. That's definitely how they are operating right now for phone and pc repair scams. It wouldn't be a terrible idea to disallow redeeming gift cards in countries outside of the purchase.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#126

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I see nothing there that invalidates any of those points. At best it weakens points 1, 4 and 5 on the basis that companies will get away with it by paying ransoms [0], and ransomers have a incentive to not be so extractive that they kill the hosts they're parasitising, but that's still a idiot tax for said companies. 0: rather than their previous strategy of ignoring the problem entirely because other poeple's privac…

Indeed, I'd need to explicitly address each point to explain exactly why and how I disagree. They're not exactly wrong in a general sense (which I know sounds a little contradictory given I said "every single point is completely inaccurate, irrelevant, and/or nonsensical"), but I think they're wrong in a fundamental way when talking about the ransomware problem. And point 1 is a total non-sequitur in at least three d…

> they're being too cynical.

Huh? If anything, they're too optimistic; as you pointed out, it's likely many companies will continue to ignore this and either make backups without improving their security, pay ransoms after the fact or quietly implode when they can't.

I agree that 1 is a bit useless (although I took it to mean PGP-for-example, not PGP-specifically), but I didn't see anything particularly relevant to it, aside from what I mentioned above.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

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It shows a clear bias on the part of the author and a reason to believe they would argue in bad faith. The author being a founder a company for which cryptocurrencies are competitors makes this doubly true.

>The author being a founder a company for which cryptocurrencies are competitors makes this doubly true. I totally missed this. That makes it worse. The company's tagline is "[company name] digitises cash and settlement processes for multinational corporates [sic?]", which is a pretty clear overlap. I don't necessarily see any evidence he's doing anything in bad faith, though - I just think he's extremely biased and…

I've followed Stephen Diehl for awhile got the idea that he hated Bitcoin and proof of work because it's a climate change disaster for the amount of electricity it uses. I feel he is sincere in that. I happen to agree with him, so maybe that makes him more credible to me.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#128

I'm not an unequivocal fan of cryptocurrencies or any particular cryptocurrency by any means, but it appears this author really hates cryptocurrency and this is just an opportunity for them to argue that governments should ban cryptocurrency. Which is completely understandable and obviously in good faith given ransomware is bad and they think cryptocurrencies are bad, but I just wanted to point out their stance and t…

Stephen takes an anti-crypto view and he's not trying to hid it. He's isn't some "hater" that got burnt on a random ICO, but a thoughtful engineer who backs up his opinions with technical, societal, and economic arguments based in part on his own experience in the blockchain space.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#129

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>The author being a founder a company for which cryptocurrencies are competitors makes this doubly true. I totally missed this. That makes it worse. The company's tagline is "[company name] digitises cash and settlement processes for multinational corporates [sic?]", which is a pretty clear overlap. I don't necessarily see any evidence he's doing anything in bad faith, though - I just think he's extremely biased and…

I've followed Stephen Diehl for awhile got the idea that he hated Bitcoin and proof of work because it's a climate change disaster for the amount of electricity it uses. I feel he is sincere in that. I happen to agree with him, so maybe that makes him more credible to me.

It's a valid concern. Bitcoin could plausibly move to proof of stake at some point, though. And if it doesn't, there are still some PoS-based cryptocurrencies out there that won't have that problem, so disliking Bitcoin doesn't necessarily imply one should dislike all cryptocurrencies.

From what I can tell, that's only one of his many criticisms, if you read his blog. I'm sure he's sincere about all of the criticisms, and I agree with many of them in a general sense, but I don't agree with the conclusions or the (IMO) hyperbolization.

Re: The Oncoming Ransomware Storm

#130

FYI, the author has a huge conflict of interest whenever he writes about cryptocurrency, seeing as he's the founder of Adjoint, Inc, a company which digitizes cash and settlement processes for multinational corporates. So it's easy to see why he hates a technology that renders his entire company useless.

Or, he founded a blockchain company only to realize that blockchain, and byzantine consensus, is a terrible way to do things.
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