Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect there are few real-world examples where "you could just say X" actually works... but in this case the story is that a random "weed dealer" killed not a random person, but a specific person known to the "weed purchaser"? Who would believe that story?
How does prosecution prove the payment was connected to the hitman and not the weed? Seems like they'd need to seize the hitman's digital communications, at which point the jig is probably already up.
Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
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Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#32Should have used Monero.
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#33"Man Used Bank of America to Pay Hitman in USD for Wife's Murder, FBI Says An FBI agent explains how a BoA account led the agency to the suspect."
Few people would be dumb enough to commit crimes with a bank account in their own name. Except this guy: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/547280-gaetz-paid-accused...
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#34Wait, this actually works?!
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#35There's this misconception that bitcoin is private / "safe" for criminals. In reality, the block chain is public (and all of its transactions inside... that is how distributed ledger consensus is achieved among miners) and the on-ramps and off-ramps between fiat are all logged / tracked, especially Coinbase (since they are taking the "safe route" and playing by all of the rules with governments / regulators). Your la…
Sounds like it worked just great for one of the criminals... From TFA "The FBI has not, however, been able to identify the hitman as yet. The reason is almost certainly because the hitman did not use a commercial service like Coinbase, which must comply with know-your-customer laws, for the Bitcoin transactions but instead relied on his own personal wallet—one that did not reveal any information about his identity."
(not implying that the bbc gave him any money)
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#36Bitcoin is a dream come true for the FBI/CIA. There are companies building sophisticated software to track the routing of shady payments through the blockchain (wouldn't be surprised if Palantir does this). Eventually, crypto finds it way towards a tangible asset that can be tied to somebody and it's just a matter of a paper trail.
Serious question, I thought BTC's only usefulness came from its usefulness in laundering money. Is this not true?
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#37There's this misconception that bitcoin is private / "safe" for criminals. In reality, the block chain is public (and all of its transactions inside... that is how distributed ledger consensus is achieved among miners) and the on-ramps and off-ramps between fiat are all logged / tracked, especially Coinbase (since they are taking the "safe route" and playing by all of the rules with governments / regulators). Your la…
Sounds like it worked just great for one of the criminals... From TFA "The FBI has not, however, been able to identify the hitman as yet. The reason is almost certainly because the hitman did not use a commercial service like Coinbase, which must comply with know-your-customer laws, for the Bitcoin transactions but instead relied on his own personal wallet—one that did not reveal any information about his identity."
If they try to convert to fiat via an exchange, they can be identified the same way the husband was. If they try to buy products directly without using fiat then it is harder for law enforcement to get the records they need, but still quite possible.
They will probably be safe if they never touch the bitcoin, but that entirely defeats the purpose of using it
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like it worked just great for one of the criminals... From TFA "The FBI has not, however, been able to identify the hitman as yet. The reason is almost certainly because the hitman did not use a commercial service like Coinbase, which must comply with know-your-customer laws, for the Bitcoin transactions but instead relied on his own personal wallet—one that did not reveal any information about his identity."
Only because the criminal hasn't yet tried to use that bitcoin to buy something in the real world. If they try to convert to fiat via an exchange, they can be identified the same way the husband was. If they try to buy products directly without using fiat then it is harder for law enforcement to get the records they need, but still quite possible. They will probably be safe if they never touch the bitcoin, but that e…
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#39There's this misconception that bitcoin is private / "safe" for criminals. In reality, the block chain is public (and all of its transactions inside... that is how distributed ledger consensus is achieved among miners) and the on-ramps and off-ramps between fiat are all logged / tracked, especially Coinbase (since they are taking the "safe route" and playing by all of the rules with governments / regulators). Your la…
It certainly can be safe and pseudo anonymous. Just need to be careful about fiat on/off ramps and maybe use a mixer or two. These things are not hard to do.
The person who used Coinbase was either lazy or ignorant
Re: Man used Coinbase to pay hitman in Bitcoin for wife's murder, FBI says
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like it worked just great for one of the criminals... From TFA "The FBI has not, however, been able to identify the hitman as yet. The reason is almost certainly because the hitman did not use a commercial service like Coinbase, which must comply with know-your-customer laws, for the Bitcoin transactions but instead relied on his own personal wallet—one that did not reveal any information about his identity."
Only because the criminal hasn't yet tried to use that bitcoin to buy something in the real world. If they try to convert to fiat via an exchange, they can be identified the same way the husband was. If they try to buy products directly without using fiat then it is harder for law enforcement to get the records they need, but still quite possible. They will probably be safe if they never touch the bitcoin, but that e…
An asumption you're making and likely untrue. There are many ways to convert to fiat or skip that step and luander through the dark web