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Re: Amazon Sidewalk

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I wouldn't mind opening up even higher b/w wifi. I've got way more than needed so seed linux distros all day long anyway ...however if someone does something illegal with it that'll still trace back to my IP and police will kick down my door, correct?

I suppose the data transfers would be just API calls back and forth, as opposed to user content.

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> Convenience should not be the end-all goal For who? Even as a tech savvy person, that is ALL I want. I used to tinker around with home projects, nowadays I want things that work with no fuss. I don't want to play IT support desk for my family, I want their stuff to work. Convenience is exactly what people want who don't understand technology but want to use it for benefit.

I like some privacy to go with the convenience. I want to watch TV, not the other way round.

You're conflating to separate topics. My desire to have things just work has nothing to do with privacy.

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I'd rather be protected by regulation than pay more for what I shouldn't have to pay for in the first place.

When was the last time regulation protects anything? The Security Act of 1934 created the SEC and look at the past 20 or so years and see how many scandals has happened under their watch. All big players. Look at Madoff. Whisper blower after whisper blower to the SEC and what did SEC do? They looked the other way.

Do you seriously need someone to provide a laundry list of all the ways government protects you and your interests? Or are you just being obtuse?

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Sure. Same reasons “Jeffrey Dahmer invited me for dinner” hits differently than “Mum invited me for dinner”. The two companies have a different track record on privacy.

Ah there, another one falling for Apple marketing. FAAG are all companies that want to make the maximum of money from their current market positioning, assets and brand. There is no inherent ethics in any of these companies. The moment Apple doesn't grow on iPhones/apps and see selling customer payment data as a significat add to revenue, they will sell all your data as every other company. Tim is no more ethical tha…

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I don't entirely agree. A better analogy might be that a restaurant's landlord doesn't care if the food is good. I've run into the problem that sellers of adspace will often prefer to work more with customers who have lower conversion rates. Makes perfect sense when you think about it, people with the crappiest products need advertising the most, while the best products can lean on word-of-mouth. Edit: Come to think…

Your last statement runs contrary to centuries of business evidence. "Build it and they will come" is a myth.

That is only true while people don't know your product exists. Once they know it exists they try to get an unbiased review; advertising can't provide that.

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Not yet, but it could have in a future generation, or even a future firmware update.

Not really. It’s basically a system to store encrypted coordinates from Bluetooth ids seen. There is no mesh networking capability. https://www.wired.com/story/apple-find-my-cryptography-bluet... Anything of that sort would be a completely new, unrelated system.

AirTags come with UWB as well as Bluetooth. There's no real reason why they couldn't pass messages along. Firstly, AirTags that come within reach of one another. An Apple version of Nest could do the same, and would supercharge the FindMy network.

Once these systems are accepted they often get upgraded without significant reconsideration.

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#397
post #237

If you want to disable Sidewalk, here's a quick Tweet I wrote back in November: https://twitter.com/jxxf/status/1332684843331825665?s=19

If I read the disable FAQ correctly, then even if you disable it, the bridge would still work. So your device would still contribute to the network, you just won't be a part of it.

Given that, I am not sure if its any use to disable sidewalk, since your network is still being shared.

The disable FAQ:

> If I disable Amazon Sidewalk, will my Sidewalk Bridges still work? Yes. All of your Sidewalk Bridges will continue to have their original functionality even if you decide to disable Amazon Sidewalk. However, disabling means missing out on Sidewalk’s connectivity and location related benefits. You also will no longer contribute your internet bandwidth to support community extended coverage benefits such as locating pets and valuables with Sidewalk-enabled devices.

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I like some privacy to go with the convenience. I want to watch TV, not the other way round.

You're conflating to separate topics. My desire to have things just work has nothing to do with privacy.

You did just say that convenience is ALL you want... and many of the most convenient tech products these days (e.g. Kindles, Ring doorbells, Facebook, internet-connected TVs, smartphone apps, etc) are not so great for people who value privacy.

If we lived in an world where the most convenient products also protected users' privacy then maybe we wouldn't be having this quibble.

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

#399
post #42

It's a real shame that human selfishness means everyone has to have their own mini WiFi point rather than all sharing. I wish the 2.4Ghz band had some kind of "at least half the bandwidth of any network connection over 2.4Ghz must be available for use by any member of the public, for free". That would effectively be the licensing cost for your use of the WiFi band - you use up bandwidth in 2.4Ghz, but provide for fre…

Yeah but wifi's not only used for the internet - would've exactly want everybody accessing everybody's stuff (printers, webcams, NAS, etc) Obviously there are solutions to that but a layperson won't manage it

Well if the law required each AP provide half the bandwidth for public use, you can bet every AP would have firewalling built in and a public/private split.

Just like the LTE network typically has firewalling between users, and stories of peoples phones being hacked via LTE are very rare.

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IMO. There should be a market for: - Dumb panels (not monitors). Perhaps stripped down recycled smart tvs. - Smart tvs but with user replaceable firmware. Think OpenWRT for TVs. Maybe the same guy who does the dumb panels could sell those but with a raspberry pi in place of the logic board. Of course a monitor solves these issues but these are normally smaller and more expensive.

There is a huge market for 'dumb panels', under the moniker of 'digital signage'. Nearly every major TV vendor has 'dumb' displays SKUs on offer in many different configs. The only problem is that they aren't always easy to get one's hand on, as they usually are sold through b2b channels instead of consumer-facing retail outlets.

Its even getting hard to find digital signage that isn't connected at this point. IIRC all the samsung stuff moved to having little fleet management computers some time ago.
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